TRO Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, terrytini said: I agree with that. It's woeful. I still think there's goals there if we play some football. Wouodnt exactly be amazed to find that is not the case though either. However he has to stay in the side he's the only guy who can get above walking pace lol. Terry, we came out all guns blazing against Hull, we was playing some decent football, but due to the fact we could not seize the second goal our confidence drained like a sieve and they seized the initiative....the rest is history. We were playing some decent stuff under RDM but couldn't see a game out.....and despite bringing players that can fix it on paper, we still can't hold our ground. Something is clearly not right....i do not want to point fingers because I simply don't know enough about the inner workings of B6( i politics).....but Steve is the manager he has to sort it. I think its possibly too late for him....if it was me in his shoes.....I would put the kids in and see my time out with them. back on topic Scott Hogan is just a symptom of Aston Villa's current plight not the disease.....I am not sure if we are set up wrong or just don't have the personnel( ability or attitude) to bring the best out in him. Edited August 13, 2017 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 15 minutes ago, brommy said: Depends on the effort he's making at BMH, the lifestyle he leads away from football and the physical/mental condition he keeps himself in. Not a good example to our younger players if we select players who don't give a monkeys. The 'effort' Agbonlahor was making on the pitch yesterday was not a good example to our younger players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 5 hours ago, villan-scott said: It's difficult to judge any player in Bruce's 'system'. Does any one of 25 or so players have any credit since Bruce came in? I really sympathise with Hogan. I really like what I've seen of him but we seem to have no clue on how to get the best out of him. This is spot on. There are plenty to choose from, but Bruce is one of the poorest managers we have had. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 34 minutes ago, Czechlad said: Hogan seems like he'd work so well with Kodjia, but problem was last season Kodjia was very selfish, and having both then in the team messed up our formations. Kodjia averaged twice as many passes each game as Hogan. While scoring 19 goals for us. Kodjia was not the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Dr_Pangloss said: The 'effort' Agbonlahor was making on the pitch yesterday was not a good example to our younger players. I agree, but that doesn't detract from my original comment in reference to McCormack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 8 hours ago, terrytini said: True. Although he might have done better to say"don't worry about working hard, just score goals " ! Funny and true at the same time. Bruce's biggest problem, he isn't capable of completely releasing the handbrake. Hard work and no play makes AVFC a dull club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newry_Villan Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Has apparently declared for Ireland. According to a few tabloids he is waiting for the relevant paperwork to clear and receive his passport. Be interesting to see how MON uses him and if he can get him scoring. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 It's a baffling signing really. If you're not set up to use him why sign him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanky Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 On Hogan I think he would do well in a team playing decent football and had some sort of midfield. Spotting a problem there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCollins29 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Completely isolated with noservice. Feem so sorry for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 He seemed so confident in preseason of getting 20+ goals this season. No chance of that happening unless a new manager comes in who can play a system to get the best out of him. He's a penalty box player, he shouldn't be running the channels like he is at the minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 He should have scored his one on one. That was his chance. However, I did watch him and he was making some brilliant runs and working off the ball throughout the game. He was completely isolated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Over/under on how many times we will hear 'long ball over the top for Hogan to chase' tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 On 13/08/2017 at 16:37, Dr_Pangloss said: The 'effort' Agbonlahor was making on the pitch yesterday was not a good example to our younger players. Well, he has got this season's goal already so he deserves to relax now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 15, 2017 Author Share Posted August 15, 2017 Great all we need is playing for ROI when Hogans injury record is poor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Reacho Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 42 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Great all we need is playing for ROI when Hogans injury record is poor He'll only play for them if he's good enough - which he currently isn't. If he does get picked it will be because he's scoring goals for us. Seems harsh to be annoyed that he's got an international call up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 57 minutes ago, andym said: Over/under on how many times we will hear 'long ball over the top for Hogan to chase' tonight? But what else do we do with him? Because he seems to have to be given the greatest threaded pass every single time. In all seriousness what passes does he need? Passed to feet, his touch isn't great and with a defender on him I've seen him usually give it away. In the air he's no threat to a defender and if he does get the ball we've seen in the last two games he rarely finds a team mate to help build an attack. He's also had good chances and failed to take them. Those feeling sorry for him surely can't expect every pass to him to be the perfect, weighted, threaded ball. I'm amazed he gets off so lightly from criticism. His performances have been woeful and are a major factor in our inability to create or keep possession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 1 hour ago, andym said: Over/under on how many times we will hear 'long ball over the top for Hogan to chase' tonight? Not many, it won't be long until Brucey gives up on him, I predict it might start tonight with Gabby up top, and a nice defensive winger on the left. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Why was he signed.. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, AvfcRigo82 said: Why was he signed.. ? Became available end of the window. Impressive goals stats and we panic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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