DCJonah Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 8 minutes ago, bobzy said: Agreed - I think our central midfield is weak really. I'd probably play Hourihane and Lansbury with no **** holding midfielder, but we all know that isn't going to happen... Unfortunately, that would be my choice as well. Or maybe even hourihane and Onomah as I think they're probably our most mobile 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, bobzy said: Agreed - I think our central midfield is weak really. I'd probably play Hourihane and Lansbury with no **** holding midfielder, but we all know that isn't going to happen... Sadly the more likely outcome is us playing with Jedi and Whelan as our CM pairing once Jedi comes back. Won't be many opening balls for Hogan to run onto created by those 2. Edited August 8, 2017 by sne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 16 minutes ago, bobzy said: Agreed - I think our central midfield is weak really. I'd probably play Hourihane and Lansbury with no **** holding midfielder, but we all know that isn't going to happen... Surely the need for a holding midfielder to effectively protect the defence, is now less valid with John Terry in the team. You're right though, we'll be using one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 6 hours ago, villabromsgrove said: I think that you've hit the nail on the head Mark with this post. It's the consistency of selection of the players picked to play around him and support his runs, that will enable an understanding to develop. The number 10 role given to Lansbury against Hull was yet another change to be factored in to a muddled revolving midfield. Bruce needs to decide on his best eleven and stick to it, apart from the occasional mid week rest for old legs. Only then will we see Hogan at his deadliest. Hogan is an asset when we are playing an attacking and pressing game, but is far less effective when we drop deep and isolate him. It's an obvious thing to say, but it happens far too much at the moment. I don't think we choose to drop deep.....we are losing the battle in midfield and we retreat. back on topic Scott needs a player to play off or a little partnership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villabromsgrove Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 1 minute ago, TRO said: I don't think we choose to drop deep.....we are losing the battle in midfield and we retreat. back on topic Scott needs a player to play off or a little partnership. Tro, after thirty/thirty five minutes you could clearly see Bruce yelling at Bacuna to stay back. He even repeated a double handed pushing motion to show him that he wanted him playing alongside Whelan. That was when we started to allow Hull to play into space and gain confidence. It also began to isolate Hogan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 (edited) 21 minutes ago, villabromsgrove said: Tro, after thirty/thirty five minutes you could clearly see Bruce yelling at Bacuna to stay back. He even repeated a double handed pushing motion to show him that he wanted him playing alongside Whelan. That was when we started to allow Hull to play into space and gain confidence. It also began to isolate Hogan. Ok.....from where i was I couldn't see that.....not good. Edited August 8, 2017 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 3 hours ago, DaveAV1 said: Surely the need for a holding midfielder to effectively protect the defence, is now less valid with John Terry in the team. You're right though, we'll be using one. I think most teams need a specialised midfield who is going to hold, or protect the defence. No matter what players you have on your back line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 (edited) 17 hours ago, terrytini said: 100% agree. And I would add, that IMO, Fowler would've failed under our system, Owen would've failed, Rush would've failed etc etc. Our side is geared to defend. It doesn't mean we always defend, but we are geared to it. It simply will never suit Hogan. Scott Hogan looked isolated second half , but I thought we took the initiative to Hull initially and attacked with vigour.....its only when we are losing the physical battle and its obvious to all, that we funnel back.....To me Terry that is a natural tendency of a team that is losing its individual battles.... its poor pitch craft. I honestly thought we had bought midfielders to fix this. Edited August 8, 2017 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 1 hour ago, rodders0223 said: I think most teams need a specialised midfield who is going to hold, or protect the defence. No matter what players you have on your back line. You may be right, more so in a three man defence where they may get stretched and the centre more exposed. The good ones though are ball players who can start off an attack or link effectively with the more forward midfielders. They ain't cheap! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 1 hour ago, rodders0223 said: I think most teams need a specialised midfield who is going to hold, or protect the defence. No matter what players you have on your back line. so do i......but who ever they are and what ever their style.....they have to get the fundamentals right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted August 8, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 8, 2017 1 hour ago, TRO said: so do i......but who ever they are and what ever their style.....they have to get the fundamentals right. Well if we HAVE to play 4 at the back. why not a 4-1-4-1, play Whelan/Jedi as the 1 in front of the back 4 with 2 creative players in front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, romavillan said: Well if we HAVE to play 4 at the back. why not a 4-1-4-1, play Whelan/Jedi as the 1 in front of the back 4 with 2 creative players in front. I would answer this but I will be drifting off topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted August 9, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 9, 2017 22 hours ago, rodders0223 said: I think most teams need a specialised midfield who is going to hold, or protect the defence. No matter what players you have on your back line. Aye. Bring back Westwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Hopefully the goal tonight will give him confidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killeen30 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: Hopefully the goal tonight will give him confidence Should have had another too with the header. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 I'd rather see O'Hare played at centre forward because he's a lot more mobile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Did his job today. Good shot as well with his left foot. Getting there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Looks garbage to me. His touch is dreadful and he frankly doesn't do anything, he doesn't close down enough and rarely seems to be in space. Lost patience, he just has to do more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Looks like we overpaid by about 14.9 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Definitely not a panic buy. Definitely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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