Popular Post Stevo985 Posted March 30, 2017 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2017 39 minutes ago, BOF said: A facebook mate has made the quite valid point that if they're going to throw the book at Taylor for that tackle then they should be throwing it at Bale as well. His tackle on O'Shea was every bit as bad. In fact I'd say it was worse. It just didn't have the same consequences. How dangerous a tackle is shouldn't solely be dependent upon the result. O'Shea had a load of stitches and was inches from a potential career ending injury too. This times a billion. It's why people who say players should be banned for as long as the recipient of the tackle is injured are so wrong. Horrendous tackles can result in zero injuries, and innocuous tackles can result in horrendous injuries. Compare Taylor's tackle with Delli Alli's in the Europa League a few weeks back. Alli's was ten times worse, but IIRC the player he tackled wasn't injured (I think he may have eventually gone off, but he wasn't seriously hurt) 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 That football insider website is quite laughBle. It states Taylor will receive a hostile reception from Norwich fans and likely to be booed by the home fans too. why would any sane villa fan boo Taylor? Absolutely ridiculous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 So stupid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 3 hours ago, BOF said: A facebook mate has made the quite valid point that if they're going to throw the book at Taylor for that tackle then they should be throwing it at Bale as well. His tackle on O'Shea was every bit as bad. In fact I'd say it was worse. It just didn't have the same consequences. How dangerous a tackle is shouldn't solely be dependent upon the result. O'Shea had a load of stitches and was inches from a potential career ending injury too. But then Bale doesn't play in the 2nd tier and he somehow got away with a yellow. And, again, Glenn Whelan. Pre-mediated elbow versus spur of the moment bad challenge? Nothing shown in the game. No retrospective ban. Completely "fine". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 The headline about Proceedings is ridiculous. Can't see how they could do that unless it was criminal proceedings and therefore they are saying it is an intent to harm, which would surely be out of FIFA remit . What grounds have FIFA got for civil proceedings? Yes they can extend the ban.. but proceedings nope.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 If Taylor gets an extended ban then Bale and Whelan should also get banned the referee as well should be in trouble too, he was garbage. I cant believe he was voted best referee in the world multiple times and a World Cup final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 I am totally at a loss to understand how the statement that [Bales/another players'] tackle was every bit as bad as Taylor's should make me think any better of Taylor's horror tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 4 hours ago, briny_ear said: I am totally at a loss to understand how the statement that [Bales/another players'] tackle was every bit as bad as Taylor's should make me think any better of Taylor's horror tackle. It's because FIFA are opening disciplinary proceedings against Taylor and not the other tackles that are just as bad except with less severe outcome, not to make you think any less of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pacbuddies Posted March 31, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2017 Anyone would think he attacked the bloke with a machete judging by all the fuss and coverage. It wasn't even a two footed challenge. Get over it and move on and if he is deemed the best player to play left back against Norwich then so be it. We paid good money for him and decent wages so we don't need him sitting around on his arse just because of this. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 31, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted March 31, 2017 5 hours ago, briny_ear said: I am totally at a loss to understand how the statement that [Bales/another players'] tackle was every bit as bad as Taylor's should make me think any better of Taylor's horror tackle. Where have you seen that statement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 18 hours ago, BOF said: A facebook mate has made the quite valid point that if they're going to throw the book at Taylor for that tackle then they should be throwing it at Bale as well. His tackle on O'Shea was every bit as bad. In fact I'd say it was worse. It just didn't have the same consequences. How dangerous a tackle is shouldn't solely be dependent upon the result. O'Shea had a load of stitches and was inches from a potential career ending injury too. But then Bale doesn't play in the 2nd tier and he somehow got away with a yellow. In my opinion, if this tackle was correctly punished i.e. Red card, then Taylor probably wouldn't have made that tackle. It happened one minute after. The ref really had let things get out of hand. It was that type of game where he constantly failed to punish foul play (Whelan elbow and Bale tackle are just two examples of possible reds) leading eventually to Taylor thinking well if everyone is at it I'll have to front up. Unfortunately it resulted in a serious injury to Coleman. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted March 31, 2017 Moderator Share Posted March 31, 2017 53 minutes ago, sparrow1988 said: In my opinion, if this tackle was correctly punished i.e. Red card, then Taylor probably wouldn't have made that tackle. It happened one minute after. The ref really had let things get out of hand. It was that type of game where he constantly failed to punish foul play (Whelan elbow and Bale tackle are just two examples of possible reds) leading eventually to Taylor thinking well if everyone is at it I'll have to front up. Unfortunately it resulted in a serious injury to Coleman. It's the same ref that was in charge when Luke Shaw had his leg broken playing for United. It seems he's known for letting things go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 (edited) 22 hours ago, sparrow1988 said: I don't know exactly what this means but the headline doesn't read well. Apparently FIFA are opening proceedings against Taylor.... http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/fifa-opens-proceedings-against-neil-taylor-following-horror-challenge-that-broke-seamus-colemans-leg-35578919.html I don't know whether it is to do with additional games been added to the ban or actually seeking financial compensation as they are now paying Coleman's wages. Also, this could be sensationalist headline writing as the Irish Indedpendent is essentially a tabloid posing as a broadsheet. Seems clear enough from the article it is about lengthening the ban. The phrase "opened proceedings" is just the work of an over-excited journalist or sub-editor. Edited March 31, 2017 by briny_ear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 I haven't commented on this as I didn't see the tackle until a few days after. Not that anybody asked for my opinion It's just misjudged as far as I'm concerned. However, as a bit of a story, I used to know Gavin Hurren who was a youth player for Notts Forest. I watched him play a few games for the reserves etc. I remember his dad once telling us that his coaches went ballistic at him for not going up for an aerial challenge with an opposing player when, if he had, he would have caught the player with his head, under the players chin (and could have knocked him out, broke his nose or worse). His coaches had absolutely nothing to say about it, and dropped him for the next game. This is under 18s by the way. As professionals, if you don't make challenges, you show weakness. You don't give the opposition an inch. The will to win in these people transcends anything anything in Sunday league, county level - hell, even top end non-league. Taylor NOT going for that ball wasn't an option. It's just mightily unfortunate. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolteExile Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 And again, if he goes for the ball, he wins it. He opts to go over the ball - in the manner of similar challenges earlier in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 1 hour ago, BOF said: It's the same ref that was in charge when Luke Shaw had his leg broken playing for United. It seems he's known for letting things go. Didn't even book Moreno for that one I think.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted March 31, 2017 Moderator Share Posted March 31, 2017 3 minutes ago, sparrow1988 said: Didn't even book Moreno for that one I think.... I just looked and you're correct. He was booked later in the game. He also scored a goal after ending Shaw's season. Quite the game for Hector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 I just went to wipe the monitor, caught it on the edge and the thing fell on the floor. I'm a **** scumbag. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddywhack Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 A scumbag is a used condom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 I for one think that tomorrow pre match entertainment should consist solely of Taylor walking around the pitch with a wooden stock so that we can pelt rotten fruit whist shouting 'shame, shame' because he is a evil player and that he injured somebody else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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