One For The Road Posted March 26, 2017 Author Share Posted March 26, 2017 13 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: It could be the end of his career mate. How much of a sociopath do you have to be to not sympathise with him? Jesus. There was me saying I wasn't going to comment on Coleman then I read that. I hope anyone else reading it realises not all Villa fans feel that way. I didnt mean it in any other way than to say that it is, after all, an injury to a footballer. Some of the vitriol directed at our player for a really unfortunate and non intentional injury is, in my view, misplaced. There are far more serious things that get overlooked by society on a daily basis and I feel this has been given too much air time. Thats all I meant. Sorry if I offended anyone. It wasnt my intention. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 30 minutes ago, One For The Road said: I didnt mean it in any other way than to say that it is, after all, an injury to a footballer. Some of the vitriol directed at our player for a really unfortunate and non intentional injury is, in my view, misplaced. There are far more serious things that get overlooked by society on a daily basis and I feel this has been given too much air time. Thats all I meant. Sorry if I offended anyone. It wasnt my intention. That's a straw man argument. If somebody's cat dies you don't tell them to man up because there are kids starving in Africa. You show a bit of compassion. You didn't really offend me. I just thought it was a tad embarrassing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astonaidan Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 I think the most disgusting thing was his reaction, waving his finger like he did nothing wrong A lad who had his own leg break should know better than try a scumbag tackle like that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted March 26, 2017 Moderator Share Posted March 26, 2017 1 minute ago, astonaidan said: A lad who had his own leg break should know better than try a scumbag tackle like that It's hardly a scumbag tackle - it's a misjudged 50-50. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astonaidan Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: It's hardly a scumbag tackle - it's a misjudged 50-50. Ah stop buddy, he leaped in at him. There was no way he could get near him. It was a scumbag tackle, Villa player or not 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 5 minutes ago, astonaidan said: Ah stop buddy, he leaped in at him. There was no way he could get near him. It was a scumbag tackle, Villa player or not A scumbag tackle? Grow up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astonaidan Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Just now, DK82 said: A scumbag tackle? Grow up. So what, just because he plays for the Villa were just going to ignore it. Maybe you should grow up yourself buddy, any blind man can see it was a scumbag tackle. He isnt excusable in this, lets not pretend he is. If someone did it to a Villa player, ye would be in uproar about it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dodgyknees Posted March 26, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted March 26, 2017 Just now, astonaidan said: So what, just because he plays for the Villa were just going to ignore it. Maybe you should grow up yourself buddy, any blind man can see it was a scumbag tackle. He isnt excusable in this, lets not pretend he is. If someone did it to a Villa player, ye would be in uproar about it Thanks for the reply. Sorry I can't come to the forum right now, I'm busy realising that a tackle was mistimed. If you'd like to leave a message after the beep, I'll get back to you. beeeeeep. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted March 26, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted March 26, 2017 46 minutes ago, DK82 said: Thanks for the reply. Sorry I can't come to the forum right now, I'm busy realising that a tackle was mistimed. If you'd like to leave a message after the beep, I'll get back to you. beeeeeep. Ah, yes just wanted to ask do you deliver? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted March 26, 2017 Moderator Share Posted March 26, 2017 Edit : Never mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wezbid Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 On 25/03/2017 at 20:22, One For The Road said: Seriously, after watching comic relief last night I think I'll save my "compassion" and "human empathy" for people who are dying of starvation as opposed to a multl millionaire footballer, who has injury that will keep him off work for a few months whilst still being paid a fortune. I really think people are seriously overreacting to this and its pretty ridiculous. Seriously? I didn't realise a bit of empathy was stored in a tank, not having some for one situation in order to provide it in another. Bonkers. Having money won't be of any comfort to anybody suffering a double leg break in the immediate short term. Nor does having some sympathy for the poor fecker mean that you can't feel any less compassion for the poor, starving children in Africa or any other part of the world for that matter. I don't find your point of view offensive, I just find it devoid of any sort of normal logical thinking. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OutByEaster? Posted March 27, 2017 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted March 27, 2017 8 hours ago, astonaidan said: Ah stop buddy, he leaped in at him. There was no way he could get near him. It was a scumbag tackle, Villa player or not He leapt at the ball, recklessly? Yes With the aim of getting the man? No. It's a split decision in a passionate game, 'I can get to this one', 'Mine', an aggressive leap for a ball that was off the ground. He's caught the man and the motion of both men has meant the collision has been of the worst kind. A genuine mistimed tackle with an error of judgment that meant there was a risk involved. It's not one of those where you look at it and he's gone in to 'do' the player - he's gone for a ball he can't get. On another day, it's a yellow and both players walk away from it - sadly, this wasn't that day and Seamus Coleman has a really bad injury; one that anyone would wish him a speedy and complete recovery from - but this was a tackle gone wrong, not an assault. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 I read that FIFA are now paying Coleman's wages. Did they do the same when amavi got injured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 (edited) On the bright side it's one less player distracted by internationals and possibly injured when away - we need all the players we can get to achieve winning every single last game of the season. (tongue in cheek emoji - if one exists). Edited March 27, 2017 by Jareth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 9 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: It's hardly a scumbag tackle - it's a misjudged 50-50. 1 hour ago, OutByEaster? said: It's not one of those where you look at it and he's gone in to 'do' the player - he's gone for a ball he can't get. So less of a "50-50", more of a "0-100" then? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 (edited) 20 hours ago, Mjvilla said: I've been badly injured and done my acl and cartilage. For the next 2 years it was horrible... having to watch people and mates play and not being able to join in anything. I'm not going to lie, I was bought to tears and was it not for a few really good mates and support of my family I would've locked myself away. Now, I'm not saying Coleman is like that, but he clearly loves the game. Imagine not being able to do the things you love wether it be injury or something else. A lot of you might think this is a bit stupid or something, but I know my dad suffered knee injuries during his career and he went through really rough patches. It can happen to anyone. It's a long, hard process recovering from something like this. It just depends how much compassion you want to show or if you want to be the tough man. January last year I had the first signs of being ill. By March I had to reduce my work load and couldnt even manage a round of Golf. 1 year later I've started working again and played my 1st golf and just went for a jog. I tell you, its a hard slog trying to get back to normal fitness, without unconditional support its mentally draining accepting the situation especially when you have setbacks. I can really feel for the guy as he wont know whats to come. Best wishes to Coleman and I hope Taylor doesnt get scarred for it. Edited March 27, 2017 by Grasshopper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoof hearted Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Haven't seen the tackle but Twitter and Facebook are demanding Tayls be hung, drawn and quartered in the middle of Aston Park on the back of the token mid-break photo still doing the rounds, so it must have been intentional, the evil evil bastard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted March 27, 2017 Moderator Share Posted March 27, 2017 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted March 27, 2017 Moderator Share Posted March 27, 2017 We need to be clear what weight the word 'intentional' carries here. Did he intend to break someone's leg? No, of course he didn't. But did he intend to 'leave one on' Coleman knowing he'd be 2nd to the ball? Yes I believe he did, and I have that belief because he went in 2 footed with both feet off the ground in that scissor style that he's done before. Once you do that, you've lost control and you've failed in your duty of care to your opponent. Most of the time you get away without the bad consequence, but on the occasion when you don't, you've only yourself to blame. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMelvillan Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 The result of the tackle is a bit of a perfect storm tbh. Yes it was late and over the top but 99% of players in Colemans position would have tried to avoid it. What I have a always liked about Coleman as a player was his bravery and commitment. He plays at 100% and when that tackle occured he was swinging at the ball with huge momentum rather than thinking of self preservation. I can guarantee that if that was Stuart Downing for instance, his first thought would have been self preservation and second thought "can I win this ball". It was an unmovable object meeting an unstoppable force and the result was hugely unfortunate. Also, for those folk believing it was deliberate, why would he do this? Getting a red card and banned for a tackle in an area of the pitch that was not an immediate threat, followed by the vilification of the righteous majority? Makes no sense. Putting in a tackle to properly hurt someone is usually driven by something personal and committed by a psycho (would love to hear Roy Keanes reaction to it) and is very rare in the modern game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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