Hoof hearted Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 9 minutes ago, baldivisvilla said: Time to reshare this article from 2011, good analysis, but the comments are even more enlightening. https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2011/nov/30/steve-bruce-sunderland-sacked There's a comment in there that has struck home, "he ran them (Sunderland) like a pub team". Absolutely nailed it for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 On 01/09/2018 at 22:24, Cliffy Biro said: This is such nonsense though, Liverpools strength is not that they are deluded its actually one of their worst qualities and why they are so hated. Theres a difference between dreaming big and being totally deluded. I get the point you are trying to make but its a very naive one. They're not hated as much as Man Utd. And I doubt, very much , they give a Tom tit about who hates them. I wouldn't call them deluded either, of course they still see themselves as a massive club, and when you've won more European cups than any other British team and numerous other titles, I really don't see how thinking their a big club can be considered delusional. The reason they are hated by so many, is, I guess, sheer envy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Surely they are looking at alternatives? Purslow is no mug, he must realise how limiting Bruce is for the owners ambitions (he is one after all). If we f*ck this season up Jack will be off too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Skills said: ive refused to visit this thread but have reached a point where i need to vent f*ck the burton game, f*ck the late equaliser v Reading and f*ck the Sheffield game... how can you leave us with 1 recognised CD? you have completely f*cked the transfer window and continue to play players out of position because of this. For this alone you should be shot! Probably the most restrained post, I've read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 1 minute ago, sheepyvillian said: They're not hated as much as Man Utd. And I doubt, very much , they give a Tom tit about who hates them. I wouldn't call them deluded either, of course they still see themselves as a massive club, and when you've won more European cups than any other British team and numerous other titles, I really don't see how thinking their a big club can be considered delusional. The reason they are hated by so many, is, I guess, sheer envy. If you were born after 1990, you may wonder what all the fuss is about Liverpool. The reason LFC fans are "hated" is they are stuck in the past and think they have some entitlement, and don't shut up about it. But like time, football grinds on and the present is the only relevance. Its a pity Liverpool are on the brink of something. I just hope Watford do a Leicester and gives us some ammunition against LFC fans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted September 3, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted September 3, 2018 Come on Christian. Don't dally now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 27 minutes ago, Dale said: this comment in particular: Last weekend we started with a right back playing at left back and a centre half playing at right back. And seven years later it is still happening. Jesus wept! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberman Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 On the one hand, I'd be surprised if he goes now. Purslow has only just got here so hasn't had much time to find a replacement, it's 'only one loss' in the league, Bolasie and Abraham haven't played yet. On the other hand I think he should. I've been pretty much on the fence. Wasn't excited about him coming in, but could see the reasons. Prior to this season he has done a lot of good - morale was rebuilt, he pulled us back from doing a Sunderland and last season we were 'there or thereabouts'. Not good enough, but close. But it's become increasingly clear he is (like Big Sam) a 12-18 month manager. There was no long term rebuild - it was all in for last season. Where he really lost me was starting to replace players he bought in - never a thought or attempt to improve those we have - it's always buy someone else. And we're not in a position to buy significantly better players where we are so it's just piling in more of virtually the same. Too much churn. My feeling is that this season the new owners told him that they want a more attacking mindset in the club - no more setting up not to lose - which is more befitting our status and financial position in this league. He persuaded them that he could deliver this and they've backed him with players to do that (for the front half of the pitch). He's tried / trying to do this but is so far outside his comfort zone that it's going tits up. Bruce and NSWE will know his time is running out, but as per my first point, he will probably get the next run of games though for me there's a huge risk that the season will be gone by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilko154 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Do we think he will get the bullet today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 One league game we have played players in the natural position and we won comfortably. What a strange coincidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Its likely like last season he will accidentaly hit a run of form due to a few injurys and so on, Elmo , Tunzabe ,Jedinnak getting hurt would probably force him to play players in their correct position but expect them to be straight back in when back, th gus has no clue he picks his mates if your not his guy your screwed 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 I'm hoping the hold up is because of the Labor Day brouhaha in the US Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, wilko154 said: Do we think he will get the bullet today? No, and thats not to say he shouldnt. Purslow wont get let Bruce go until he has someone to come in. Similar to Benitez and Hudson In saying that Purslow may wants to make a big statement showing that he is in charge and does the needful. He will also be given alot of plus points by fans if he does which i'm sure wont be lost on him. Good time to do it given he has 2 weeks to get a new man in as well. From what i read Purslow is very ruthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 I was stood behind Brucey in the queue at Big Johns about 2 weeks ago and remember telling him that we were playing the best football I've seen in years. I was hammered .(Thought he was Ancelotti) This one's on me guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Just occurred to me, when a New Manager Speculation thread on Villa talk has reached 122 pages, his sacking is long long long over due. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 (edited) nobody gets sacked after one (league) defeat ...regardless of previous seasons ineptness the owners will give him a few more defeats Edited September 3, 2018 by tonyh29 added League for clarity 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 1 minute ago, tonyh29 said: nobody gets sacked after one defeat ...regardless of previous seasons ineptness the owners will give him a few more defeats Hes had 2 defeats and drawing with teams in relegation fight are as good as a defeat to a team looking promotion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: nobody gets sacked after one defeat ...regardless of previous seasons ineptness the owners will give him a few more defeats Agree. This season will be wasted I am afraid. The guy should have gone the day the new owners came in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 1 minute ago, HeyAnty said: Hes had 2 defeats and drawing with teams in relegation fight are as good as a defeat to a team looking promotion. nobody up top is going to count the Burton game in a mickey mouse tournament Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 12 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: nobody up top is going to count the Burton game in a mickey mouse tournament Well i count it and so should our owners, even though i agree its a Mickey mouse tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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