dont_do_it_doug. Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 (edited) 3 minutes ago, sheepyvillian said: The pioneers of competitive football and you ask me ,what has history and tradition got to do with anything ? Dear me . What, is this our equivalent of 'The Aston Villa Way'? Are we really that **** sad? Besides, were we not competitive? Edited November 1, 2016 by dont_do_it_doug. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 40 minutes ago, sheepyvillian said: The pioneers of competitive football and you ask me ,what has history and tradition got to do with anything ? Dear me . Yes I ask what that has to do with anything. History is just that history. It's great that we've got it, but it has no relevance about the point on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Grasshopper Posted November 1, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2016 (edited) Steve Bruce thread? Right? had he been appointed instead of 1 McShat 2 Shatwood 3 Garde which league would we be in? 4 say instead of RDM - where would we be in the table? Lerner X***ed us good and proper. Bruce's appointment meant starting anew with an incomplete squad and 19th in The Ch. 4 games & 8 pts later Wtf do you detractors want? We've been shyt for 5yrs+ We're still shyt but getting pts on the board and are climbing the table. unbelievable Jeff!!!!!! Edited November 1, 2016 by Grasshopper 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 15 minutes ago, Grasshopper said: Steve Bruce thread? Right? had he been appointed instead of 1 McShit 2 Shitwood 3 Garde which league would we be in? 4 say instead of RDM - where would we be in the table? Lerner F***ed us good and proper. Bruce's appointment meant starting anew with an incomplete squad and 19th in The Ch. 4 games & 8 pts later Wtf do you detractors want? We've been shit for 5yrs+ We're still shit but getting pts on the board and are climbing the table. Can't believe I agree with you on something, still have a soft spot for good old Timmy though. lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 6 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Can't believe I agree with you on something, One is never too old to learn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 11 hours ago, villalad21 said: Again this is not my point, and you obviously fail to see that. All i am doing is critizising sunday's performance. It was not GOOD enough. The way Steve Bruce set up the team on sunday was embarrasing. And on another day Birmingham would finish off their chances and probably scored 2 or 3 goals and we would lose the game. You need to look behind a result to truely reflect if it was a good performance or a bad one. And the reality is. Birmingham were not clinical on that day, if they had been we would lose the game and then you wouldn't say we were "hard" to beat. All you do is to draw conclusion from the result, but, yes we played truely horrific and were VERY lucky too get a point. You can't be lucky in every game We are work in progress....but where we have improved is our work OFF the ball.....not yet there, but signs of improvement. We made Blues work harder and they got snatchy,so while I accept we were far from great.....we done the bits of ugly stuff better than what we have done before SB. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 11 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Can't believe I agree with you on something, still have a soft spot for good old Timmy though. lol Whats even worse is I agree with both of you! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkLillis Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 23 hours ago, villalad21 said: Again this is not my point, and you obviously fail to see that. All i am doing is critizising sunday's performance. It was not GOOD enough. The way Steve Bruce set up the team on sunday was embarrasing. And on another day Birmingham would finish off their chances and probably scored 2 or 3 goals and we would lose the game. You need to look behind a result to truely reflect if it was a good performance or a bad one. And the reality is. Birmingham were not clinical on that day, if they had been we would lose the game and then you wouldn't say we were "hard" to beat. All you do is to draw conclusion from the result, but, yes we played truely horrific and were VERY lucky too get a point. I can see this point has raised quite a bit of debate... It was definitely good enough to get a point against Blues (score was 1-1), why should we expect more given both sides start to the season? We are not a very good side right now, so why would we attack them until we can do it from a position of strength? Birmingham,when I have watched them are not a very clinical side on ANY day... Horrific would have been 3-0 or more (god forbid) Luck maybe.....a little bit! Are you sure you haven't spent the weekend justifying our performance to the noses they are 3 years ahead of us in their recovery (and might just be peaking!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted November 2, 2016 Moderator Share Posted November 2, 2016 12 hours ago, TRO said: You can't be lucky in every game We are work in progress....but where we have improved is our work OFF the ball.....not yet there, but signs of improvement. We made Blues work harder and they got snatchy,so while I accept we were far from great.....we done the bits of ugly stuff better than what we have done before SB. And the team has a much better shape, at times under RDM the team shape was worse than Gabby's last season. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, MarkLillis said: I can see this point has raised quite a bit of debate... It was definitely good enough to get a point against Blues (score was 1-1), why should we expect more given both sides start to the season? We are not a very good side right now, so why would we attack them until we can do it from a position of strength? Birmingham,when I have watched them are not a very clinical side on ANY day... Horrific would have been 3-0 or more (god forbid) Luck maybe.....a little bit! Are you sure you haven't spent the weekend justifying our performance to the noses they are 3 years ahead of us in their recovery (and might just be peaking!) a few weeks ago we would have been beaten out of sight. but "good" is subjective.....to me in the light of things it was a good point....with the caveat much work to do. What Steve has managed to do is make the opposition work hard for anything they get from us. .....a few weeks back it was gifted. Edited November 2, 2016 by TRO 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 2, 2016 Author Share Posted November 2, 2016 Norwich got spanked 3-0 at the sty and they played exactly the same way against them as they did with us. Yet they had a couple chances but were not completely dominant. I think if we had piled on the kind of pressure blose did to us, we would have won quite comfortably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisvilla4 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 19 hours ago, Grasshopper said: Steve Bruce thread? Right? had he been appointed instead of 1 McShat 2 Shatwood 3 Garde which league would we be in? 4 say instead of RDM - where would we be in the table? Lerner X***ed us good and proper. Bruce's appointment meant starting anew with an incomplete squad and 19th in The Ch. 4 games & 8 pts later Wtf do you detractors want? We've been shyt for 5yrs+ We're still shyt but getting pts on the board and are climbing the table. unbelievable Jeff!!!!!! Love the enthusiasm in that post, also, the font makes it more passionate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 19 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Can't believe I agree with you on something, still have a soft spot for good old Timmy though. lol Same here! - much to my surprise I "liked" Grasshopper's post, maybe a first. And I also agree with you - I have a soft spot for Timmy, although his opening spell in the 2015/6 season was possibly the biggest disaster AVFC has ever experienced in its entire history. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted November 2, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted November 2, 2016 Havnt seen me ole mate around for a while. He must be on holidays with no internet connection 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted November 2, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted November 2, 2016 1 hour ago, briny_ear said: Same here! - much to my surprise I "liked" Grasshopper's post, maybe a first. And I also agree with you - I have a soft spot for Timmy, although his opening spell in the 2015/6 season was possibly the biggest disaster AVFC has ever experienced in its entire history. Timmy's good in my book too. Can't help but like him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 23 hours ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: What, is this our equivalent of 'The Aston Villa Way'? Are we really that **** sad? Besides, were we not competitive? Hanging on for dear life ,which is what we did for the whole of the second half , is not my view of being competitive . I can t accept us not even attempting to be on the front foot , against such opposition ,and I believe our history and tradition demands that attitude ,but what do I know ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewieGriffin Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Interested to see how he sets up Saturday - Blackburn is the first game he'll be expected to win. A derby game against a team who were in decent form at the time, a tough away game against a team who were unbeaten at home, a home game against a team who were unbeaten away from home and then another derby against a team who are strong at home is a pretty tough start, and Blackburn is the first time he really had a chance to go for the kill from the off, and Im interested to see how ambitious he is with that 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, sheepyvillian said: Hanging on for dear life ,which is what we did for the whole of the second half , is not my view of being competitive . I can t accept us not even attempting to be on the front foot , against such opposition ,and I believe our history and tradition demands that attitude ,but what do I know ? Not very much if you think we were hanging on for dear life in the second half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted November 2, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted November 2, 2016 (edited) On 01/11/2016 at 20:08, Grasshopper said: Steve Bruce thread? Right? had he been appointed instead of 1 McShat 2 Shatwood 3 Garde which league would we be in? 4 say instead of RDM - where would we be in the table? Lerner X***ed us good and proper. Bruce's appointment meant starting anew with an incomplete squad and 19th in The Ch. 4 games & 8 pts later Wtf do you detractors want? We've been shyt for 5yrs+ We're still shyt but getting pts on the board and are climbing the table. unbelievable Jeff!!!!!! They basically want us to be managed by someone who didn't used to manage The Scum apart from a couple who want us to be managed by Pep Guardiola. I remain uncertain as to which is the more misguided school of thought. PS I was never X-Rayed by Lerner PPS Will you all desist with the Sherwood nonsense. He's a complete charlatan and a lying coward to boot. Edited November 2, 2016 by sidcow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praisedmambo Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 (edited) There's been talk about RDM being unlucky and Bruce being lucky. I'd say there's more than a decent argument that RDM was lucky—we should have been spanked in a lot of those games where we managed to get points. Anyway, we've finally started looking like a competitive team again, for the first time in about 4 years (ok when Sherwood first turned up). Edited November 2, 2016 by praisedmambo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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