kurtsimonw Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 3 hours ago, vreitti said: Are you seriously arguing as 'a fact', that we'd actually have the same amount of goals and the same results if he'd have been replaced with any of our forwards we had at the time? You're assuming that a failed attempt to sign Kodjia would mean we'd just not sign anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post It's Your Round Posted March 13, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2017 For what it's worth, I bloody love this guy! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dont_do_it_doug. Posted March 13, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2017 6 hours ago, kurtsimonw said: You're assuming that a failed attempt to sign Kodjia would mean we'd just not sign anyone else. Who though? It's a redundant debate in my opinion. We can't prove either way that we would have gotten a player of comparable ability, or that they would have slotted in as well as Kodjia has. In my opinion he has been and is perfect for us, for where we've been and where we want to be in the short/medium term. He's comfortably our best player. He will get his 20 goals this season. And 20 more next. Injuries permitting of course. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 22 hours ago, bobzy said: That's only a "fact" if we didn't replace any of those goals or Kodjia as a player. So, yes, if we played with 10 men and no striker each game I agree - we'd be in relegation. Given the failure of McCormack and the struggles of Scott Hogan I'm not sure anyone can easily argue that Kodjia's goals would have been replaced. Who else in our current squad would have scored them? And if we'd signed a different player, absolutely no guarantee things would have worked out. Kodjia has clearly had a massive affect on us this season. Being the only player in a squad who can consistently score will do that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 59 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Given the failure of McCormack and the struggles of Scott Hogan I'm not sure anyone can easily argue that Kodjia's goals would have been replaced. Who else in our current squad would have scored them? And if we'd signed a different player, absolutely no guarantee things would have worked out. Kodjia has clearly had a massive affect on us this season. Being the only player in a squad who can consistently score will do that. Exactly - there's no guarantee either way so how can it be "factual" that we'd be relegated without him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilko154 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 1 hour ago, DCJonah said: Given the failure of McCormack and the struggles of Scott Hogan I'm not sure anyone can easily argue that Kodjia's goals would have been replaced. Who else in our current squad would have scored them? And if we'd signed a different player, absolutely no guarantee things would have worked out. Kodjia has clearly had a massive affect on us this season. Being the only player in a squad who can consistently score will do that. It could be argued that McCormack and Hogan could have played better without Kodjia beside them as he can be too selfish... However Benteke was a player of a similar mould and he could be pretty selfish at times. He moved on and look where we found ourselves without him... No doubt about it Kodjia has had a huge effect on us this season and if we can get him a decent supply next season he could take us all the way back to the Premiership. He's also a player who could probably do a job in the Premiership (a step up that players like McCormack and Rhodes have failed to make over the past few years) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 It's impossible to say either way. We could've made a panic buy at the end of the window on some unknown nobody who scored 30 goals and won us the league. Or not having Kodjia could've been so detrimental to the way the team played that we only scored 20 goals all season and finished bottom. Or something in between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PieFacE Posted March 14, 2017 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2017 I don't know about others, but I'm just happy to have an exciting player to watch who can stick it in the net. There's a lot of things to be concerned about with Villa imo, Kodja isn't one of them. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I think we might struggle to keep him over the summer. Clubs like Brighton, Stoke, Leicester etc wouldn't bat an eyelid now about paying £25M for someone with the inbound finances the premier league brings....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 31 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: I think we might struggle to keep him over the summer. Clubs like Brighton, Stoke, Leicester etc wouldn't bat an eyelid now about paying £25M for someone with the inbound finances the premier league brings....... Maybe. However it is increasingly rare that Premier League clubs look to the Championship for players, particularly at that price for a 27 year old. It would be unheard of. £25m buys you more on the continent, in theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 If you added the vision some want to his game he'd be playing for Chelsea or City. He isn't going to change, imo we need to embrace his good points, of which there are many, and just keep fingers crossed he will occasionally accidentally pass. To be honest I'm baffled anyone would want him gone and would be staggered if Bruce does, Kodja will get us promoted next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante_Lockhart Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Do we know why he bandages his hand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjvilla Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Based on absolutely nothing at all, I think hogan will score more than him next season. Would be good to see them going at it hammer and tongue for the top scorer record next season: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, bannedfromHandV said: I think we might struggle to keep him over the summer. Clubs like Brighton, Stoke, Leicester etc wouldn't bat an eyelid now about paying £25M for someone with the inbound finances the premier league brings....... Good thing we own his registration for a few years and don't need money then. Edited March 14, 2017 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Well in opposite land we won the champions league last year, so there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 1 hour ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Good thing we own his registration for a few years and don't need money then. Yeah because players never move clubs whilst under contract, totes forgot about that silly me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 2 hours ago, Dante_Lockhart said: Do we know why he bandages his hand? I think it's cos he's a massive Keith Lemon fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 7 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: Yeah because players never move clubs whilst under contract, totes forgot about that silly me. So you can see us selling Kodjia this summer then yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: So you can see us selling Kodjia this summer then yes? I can see clubs being interested in buying him yes, at that point it largely comes down to the player. You can argue all day about being under contract but it means little-to-nothing if the player wants a move, at that point we either sell or force him to stay which in most cases leaves you with a highly demotivated and disgruntled employee who, as a result of the discord, is likely to contribute less than they're capable of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Everton when Lukaku goes in the summer? Probably not since he's miles from that quality, just got a weird feeling they might want him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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