bannedfromHandV Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, A'Villan said: I would agree with you that McCormack and Bruce are through, it would surprise me if anything else came to be. Don't really believe it to be a theory, rather the attitude of an individual which dictates their ability to resolve issues, not everyone possesses that ability and as you say some situations are beyond resolve. Just giving my two cents that I think it disappointing that in this case it seems beyond repair. Let's just be clear - that is 100% the fault of mccormack. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 29 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: Let's just be clear - that is 100% the fault of mccormack. From what I gather he's had issues with being unprofessional, so yeah. If you're not at training you won't know the plans or develop the chemistry. If you cost 12million and want to continue as one of the divisions better performers, you find a way to training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Strikers: Kodjia, Hogan, Davis, RHM Attacking Mids: Grealish, Hourihane, Lansbury, McCormack If he can have a good showing in preseason, i'd keep Ross. Outside of Grealish, our attacking mids options are lacking if you consider Hourihane and Lansbury to be CMs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Look Ross needs to give his head a wobble - look in the mirror and decide if he wants to be remembered as a total waste of space or someone who could actually play a bit and at least try and give back to the fans if no one else- I know what I would choose and whilst I do not wish to rake up the past but has he really behaved worse than a home town boy a little while ago now? Looking purely from a professional point of view also - are we really so well off that we can ignore someone with his unquestionable talent ? maybe a huge slice of humble pie on all sides and let's see where a good pre- season takes him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 45 minutes ago, Dave J said: Look Ross needs to give his head a wobble - look in the mirror and decide if he wants to be remembered as a total waste of space or someone who could actually play a bit and at least try and give back to the fans if no one else- I know what I would choose and whilst I do not wish to rake up the past but has he really behaved worse than a home town boy a little while ago now? Looking purely from a professional point of view also - are we really so well off that we can ignore someone with his unquestionable talent ? maybe a huge slice of humble pie on all sides and let's see where a good pre- season takes him I really don't get how you're so wound up about Gabby even after he's left the club, yet you seem to be almost endlessly indulgent of McCormack, who has literally done nothing for this football club except cause it grief and financial damage. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Dave J said: Look Ross needs to give his head a wobble - look in the mirror and decide if he wants to be remembered as a total waste of space or someone who could actually play a bit and at least try and give back to the fans if no one else- I know what I would choose and whilst I do not wish to rake up the past but has he really behaved worse than a home town boy a little while ago now? Looking purely from a professional point of view also - are we really so well off that we can ignore someone with his unquestionable talent ? maybe a huge slice of humble pie on all sides and let's see where a good pre- season takes him Its a nice thought and sure we all hope that. But lets face it, more likely he is just the new Habib Beye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 27 minutes ago, ciggiesnbeer said: Its a nice thought and sure we all hope that. But lets face it, more likely he is just the new Habib Beye I genuinely forgotten he played for us. Thanks for the nice reminder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted July 5, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted July 5, 2018 Hey fatty bum bum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornso Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Is there even any evidence he's been seen at the club in the last 6 months? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted July 6, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted July 6, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, ciggiesnbeer said: But lets face it, more likely he is just the new Habib Beye I hope so - best song ever! Monday, Tuesday Habib Beye, Tuesday, Wednesday Habib, Beye, Wednesday, Thursday Habib Beye! Edited July 6, 2018 by TheAuthority 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 8 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: I really don't get how you're so wound up about Gabby even after he's left the club, yet you seem to be almost endlessly indulgent of McCormack, who has literally done nothing for this football club except cause it grief and financial damage. The reality is everything you say is correct - but on the other hand if for instance we sell Kod - would you then consider reintegrating McCormack ? Would we not be left with little choice other than to do so ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 If Jack goes, I would be up for trying to get him fit and motivated to play in that number 10 role. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 7 hours ago, sidcow said: Hey fatty bum bum. Let me tell you something. Ross needs to get off those sweet sugar dumplings and build some fences at Villa Park during pre season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 15 hours ago, Dave J said: The reality is everything you say is correct - but on the other hand if for instance we sell Kod - would you then consider reintegrating McCormack ? Would we not be left with little choice other than to do so ? It's a fair question. Obviously pre-season is the best chance to try and get fit, get in shape and get his head in the right place, and if he does I don't mind if he's reintegrated. I'm pretty agnostic on it really, I just have little faith he'll be able to get himself right enough for everyone to forgive and forget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: It's a fair question. Obviously pre-season is the best chance to try and get fit, get in shape and get his head in the right place, and if he does I don't mind if he's reintegrated. I'm pretty agnostic on it really, I just have little faith he'll be able to get himself right enough for everyone to forgive and forget. Now that's an entirely different question which I totally agree with - I don't think that RM will get back to his former self - but what I am saying is that we are speculating and if RM does defy the odds and gets himself into a position of consideration then I don't think he can be ignored Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 6 hours ago, Dave J said: Now that's an entirely different question which I totally agree with - I don't think that RM will get back to his former self - but what I am saying is that we are speculating and if RM does defy the odds and gets himself into a position of consideration then I don't think he can be ignored He wouldn't be ignored. A fit healthy RM would be welcomed by everyone. But he's not, and hasn't been since he's been here. Fingers crossed though. We're due a miracle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 (edited) I don't get the whole craze with bring back McCormack. While Bruce is in charge, RM is done with imo. With or without Bruce I don't see what he offers us any way? Referring to past performances and expecting him to come back and still be that player again are just crazy thoughts. He is finished as a footballer in this country imo. Edited July 8, 2018 by AvfcRigo82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 13 minutes ago, AvfcRigo82 said: I don't get the whole craze with bring back McCormack. While Bruce is in charge, RM is done with imo. With or without Bruce I don't see what he offers us any way? Referring to past performances and expecting him to come back and still be that player again are just crazy thoughts. He is finished as a footballer in this country imo. Didn’t people say that Hutton was finished at Villa back when he was shipped out to Spain on loan and then Forest about 3/4 seasons ago? Players can turn form around. We can say what we want about McCormack, but he is a great finisher, and we’re likely to sell our best striker and creative player (Kodj & Jack). Our problem for far too long is completely writing off players after their stock hits rock bottom. Other clubs persist with players, as opposed to throwing money at replacements, and that’s why we always sell players for a loss. McCormack still has time left on his contract, so I’m another in the ‘get him motivated, get him playing’ camp. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted July 8, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted July 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Rob182 said: Didn’t people say that Hutton was finished at Villa back when he was shipped out to Spain on loan and then Forest about 3/4 seasons ago? Players can turn form around. We can say what we want about McCormack, but he is a great finisher, and we’re likely to sell our best striker and creative player (Kodj & Jack). Our problem for far too long is completely writing off players after their stock hits rock bottom. Other clubs persist with players, as opposed to throwing money at replacements, and that’s why we always sell players for a loss. McCormack still has time left on his contract, so I’m another in the ‘get him motivated, get him playing’ camp. Hutton always had a bang on attitude 100% professional, hard work ethic. It's not possible to draw comparisons between those 2 players situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted July 8, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted July 8, 2018 On 06/07/2018 at 22:10, HanoiVillan said: It's a fair question. Obviously pre-season is the best chance to try and get fit, get in shape and get his head in the right place, and if he does I don't mind if he's reintegrated. I'm pretty agnostic on it really, I just have little faith he'll be able to get himself right enough for everyone to forgive and forget. Is he even training with the squad at the moment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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