hippo Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 I agree he would look to make an ideal number 10. But I think his off the field problems will keep him well away from the first team squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 The luck of the Scottish! First Hutton and his invincibleness and now an opportunity for wee Ross to earn some self respect. Doubt he can be arsed though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted July 31, 2017 Visiting Supporter Share Posted July 31, 2017 Just wondering what sort of conditions was in McCormack's transfer to Villa? Was it 12m straight up or was that fee based on appearances? Could be one of the reasons why Bruce is looking McCormack gone now? 6m-8m back to Villa now would cover the initial outlay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 2 hours ago, striker said: Just wondering what sort of conditions was in McCormack's transfer to Villa? Was it 12m straight up or was that fee based on appearances? Could be one of the reasons why Bruce is looking McCormack gone now? 6m-8m back to Villa now would cover the initial outlay? I think both Him and Hogan were of the "up to £12m" variety if the press was to be believed. Make total sense to me what you say there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YLN Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Why would Sunderland pay £6 million for a player that by all accounts on here has personal issues to such an extent that he is unlikely ever to play for us again, or even get near the first team. Do we on VillaTalk have better intel than the negotiators at Sunderland? Either Sunderland aren't interested for a price even remotely like £6 million, or McCormack isn't as finished as a striker as appears to be the consensus at the moment on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 7 minutes ago, YLN said: Why would Sunderland pay £6 million for a player that by all accounts on here has personal issues to such an extent that he is unlikely ever to play for us again, or even get near the first team. Do we on VillaTalk have better intel than the negotiators at Sunderland? Either Sunderland aren't interested for a price even remotely like £6 million, or McCormack isn't as finished as a striker as appears to be the consensus at the moment on here. Or they are desperate and McCormick hasnt the massive problems some make out on here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Just now, HeyAnty said: Or they are desperate and McCormick hasnt the massive problems some make out on here. Sunderland, like we were last season, are desperate and their manager needs to get rid of lots of his squad in order to turn things around. Grayson can't afford to spend 12 mill plus on a striker, but has had success before with Mcoremack, and I am sure thinks it probably worth a gamble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 7 minutes ago, YLN said: Why would Sunderland pay £6 million for a player that by all accounts on here has personal issues to such an extent that he is unlikely ever to play for us again, or even get near the first team. Do we on VillaTalk have better intel than the negotiators at Sunderland? Either Sunderland aren't interested for a price even remotely like £6 million, or McCormack isn't as finished as a striker as appears to be the consensus at the moment on here. Or it's a drinkers paradise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YLN Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Just now, VILLAMARV said: Or it's a drinkers paradise Are they being sponsored by Dutch Gold or something? 'Look how pissed all our players are. Drink Dutch Gold!' Ross: mmm goes down easy. I could drink ten of these and then still have lots of money left for a kebab. Gibson: I might be pissed, but at least I give a shit. Dutch Gold is the drink of winners. Maybe if Khazri drank more Dutch Gold he'd be better at football. Grayson: I've been drinking Dutch Gold ever since I started losing my hair. Thanks to Dutch Gold, no one notices my slightly receding hair line, because of how pissed I am all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 15 hours ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Based on what? None of us have any idea what is going on behind the scenes. If we can get £6m back for him that would be fantastic. Bruce has said that McCormack has done very well in training and came back fit, but he still can't guarantee McCormack minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, YLN said: Why would Sunderland pay £6 million for a player that by all accounts on here has personal issues to such an extent that he is unlikely ever to play for us again, or even get near the first team. Do we on VillaTalk have better intel than the negotiators at Sunderland? Why should we give away our players to a team that have earned something like 80 mill in parachute payments? im happy to keep RMC as cover till Jan now Grealish is injured for 3 - 4 months. RMC has not come out and said he wants to leave he has knuckled down in training and tried to force his way back into the team. Edited July 31, 2017 by AshVilla 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMelvillan Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 4 minutes ago, AshVilla said: Why should we give away our players to a team that have earned something like 80 mill in parachute payments? im happy to keep RMC as cover till Jan now Grealish is injured for 3 - 4 months. RMC has not come out and said he wants to leave he has knuckled down in training and tried to force his way back into the team. Pretty much this. We keep him to fit in at number 10 position now that Grealish is out, with a view to selling him in January when people are desperate and willing to overpay on what they may perceive to be a guaranteed goal getter. By which time Grealish should be back and raring to go. Best case scenario is that McCormack knuckles down and plays well as he wants to impress potential suitors so he can get out of Villa. Worst case is that he doesnt do the above but Grayson still believes he can get the best out of him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 17 hours ago, Czechlad said: Losing half of what we paid for McCormack in one season is such terrible business. McCormack had his off field issues last season, but this season he seemed to come back and be ready to play. Agree with you, it would be terrible business and in an ideal world, I'd like to see the player he was at Fulham. It would appear that isn't going to happen though and given most of the football world will be aware of these 'issues', £6m would be the very top end of what we could hope for imo and even that will only be through desperation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Leaving on loan Quote Sunderland are hopeful of completing the loan signing of Ross McCormack before their opening game of the season with Derby County on Friday, TEAMtalk understands. The Scotland international has been told by Aston Villa boss Steve Bruce that he can leave, and Sunderland have agreed a season-long deal with their Championship counterparts. And while the two clubs are in talks about how to structure his substantial wage packet between the two of them, TEAMtalk has been told that the Black Cats are hopeful of concluding a deal before the weekend. Sunderland boss Simon Grayson has already added the likes of Lewis Grabban, Aiden McGeady and James Vaughan to his attacking options, but he is desperate to get hold of McCormack too. Hmm Bruce really must not fancy him if willing to let him go on loan again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 not too happy if it's a loan deal. they're fat off the parachute payments. they should pay up or back off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted August 2, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 2, 2017 27 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Leaving on loan Hmm Bruce really must not fancy him if willing to let him go on loan again ....or it's a completely made up article with not one quote! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 5 minutes ago, Nigel said: ....or it's a completely made up article with not one quote! Possibly but one thing with tea talk when they break a story like this which isn't often they are usually right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DCJonah Posted August 2, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2017 Loan would be poor. We strengthen a team who are also looking to get promoted and we lose a player who could play in the position Grealish can no longer play in. And would a loan really solve any FFP issues we might have? Hope this isn't true. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 I refuse to believe this regime would allow themselves to be ****ed over like that. No chance, no way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 I'd be open to him going but on loan to a rival? No way! Should keep him until the end of the window then we should have Kodija back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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