skarroki Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 I think Elphick is a good fit for Sunderland. Limited, but a real battling centre back. Similar mould to Tom Clarke who was captain for Preston under Grayson, so I imagine he's looking for that kind of defender. They still have the likes of Kone, O'Shea and Djilobodji so he'll have competition to get in the side. Having said that, Djil couldn't keep his place and O'Shea must be in his 50's now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 1 hour ago, skarroki said: I think Elphick is a good fit for Sunderland. Limited, but a real battling centre back. Similar mould to Tom Clarke who was captain for Preston under Grayson, so I imagine he's looking for that kind of defender. They still have the likes of Kone, O'Shea and Djilobodji so he'll have competition to get in the side. Having said that, Djil couldn't keep his place and O'Shea must be in his 50's now Browning seems to have gone on loan from Everton and is doing ok in pre season. Kone did ok for Big Sam, atrocious at times last year under Moyes. Djilibodji doesn't inspire much confidence. Mackems I know would still play O'shea. They've got young Paddy McNair there too but he can play more DM. If they keep hold of the likes of him Ndong, Cattermole, Rodwell and Gibson and get some games out of them I can't see them being the pushovers everyone seems to expect them to be. Ndong cost them a lot mind and money is their problem. Short is pretty much doing a Lerner to them at this point. Theyve made a lot selling some keepers but theyre still in massive debt basically and I wouldn't be surprised to see a few more leave yet. Lens, Khazri, Kone for instance, but it seems Grayson has gone in there because they'll be compensating Moyes more than they'll be spending on transfers. If Lens goes we may see some movement from them. They are in too much of a mess to be thought of as serious contenders but there's a core of a pretty solid team there imo. Play-offs is still not that unrealistic a concept for me. Still, facing Elphick in the future doesn't worry me in the slightest, nor should it for where we want to go so whoever, wherever really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 I follow Preston quite closely and think Grayson is the perfect fit. They've not been far off the play offs last 2 seasons and they had the smallest wage budget in the league last season (I imagine it will be embargoed Bolton this season mind) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 28, 2017 Author Share Posted July 28, 2017 Surely has to stay now? We cant risk a complete injury situation and only have richards as a cb option. Keep him here for another season. hopefully he can rediscoer his early season form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 3 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Surely has to stay now? We cant risk a complete injury situation and only have richards as a cb option. Keep him here for another season. hopefully he can rediscoer his early season form I suspect the club would still like to see both Richards and Elphick gone, given the wages between them. I agree with you though and we'd have to bring in more cover, even if it's just a loan. Unless Brice is happy to go with the 3, with RDL and the Jedi as cover? Amazing how losing one back up centre half can make you go from thinking we have the best defensive options in the league, to 'hold on, we might be in a bit of trouble here...' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 What is happening with this guy then? Is he even involved at all? Is he injured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 51 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: What is happening with this guy then? Is he even involved at all? Is he injured? Still injured it seems . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tismyk Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killeen30 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 I will be honest I had totally forgot about Elphick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Don't think it'd be a bad idea to get him more involved now, especially with Baker leaving. He could be decent backup (we don't have great options or depth at CB imo) especially if his confidence can be restored. Could be more reliable/effective than Samba, who I don't really trust over the course of a whole season tbh. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Willard Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Elphick struggled last year because him and Chester play the same role. He lost a lot of confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 4 hours ago, Jas10 said: Don't think it'd be a bad idea to get him more involved now, especially with Baker leaving. He could be decent backup (we don't have great options or depth at CB imo) especially if his confidence can be restored. Could be more reliable/effective than Samba, who I don't really trust over the course of a whole season tbh. Cup run will be very good for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 I want to keep him. Doubt we will get much for Elphick, and honestly I feel confident with him over Samba. Elphick's body probably won't let him play a full season, so a sub role is probably good for him. I can't believe he was our captain at the start of last season, and this year he doesn't feature really at all. He hasn't necessarily done anything wrong. He just didn't work well with chester, then he got hurt. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 23, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 23, 2017 I only want to keep him because I don't think we have much cover at CB. In reality he's not a very good player. We could easily replace him if we wanted to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted August 23, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 23, 2017 Definitely worth keeping as back up. Although they may be looking at shipping him out due to wages and FFP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 30, 2017 Author Share Posted August 30, 2017 Staying at the club now as samba injured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted August 30, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 30, 2017 30 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Staying at the club now as samba injured Really....wheres this been reported? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 9 minutes ago, Nigel said: Really....wheres this been reported? SKY are reporting we turned down an approach from Sunderland due to Samba's injury. It's SKY so might very well be BS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted August 30, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 30, 2017 suppose it would make sense though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 30, 2017 Author Share Posted August 30, 2017 7 minutes ago, sne said: SKY are reporting we turned down an approach from Sunderland due to Samba's injury. It's SKY so might very well be BS Doubt it. Be ridiculous to sell elphick with only terry and Chester as cbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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