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7 minutes ago, Jareth said:

You couldn't have done, I imagine it was an imam who happened to sound like Ozzy, or a Somali, or a random african - because it is 100% impossible that the local area has not been over run by rock hating immigrants. That's why I voted Brexit anyway. 

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The whole of Aston is a shithole. Our stadium is probably the only decent thing there, it’s just desolated council houses and chicken shops. But I’d never want our stadium to move as it’s one of the best in country imo. Hopefully the areas closest to the stadium could have something done about it.

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28 minutes ago, 7392craig said:

The whole of Aston is a shithole. Our stadium is probably the only decent thing there, it’s just desolated council houses and chicken shops. But I’d never want our stadium to move as it’s one of the best in country imo. Hopefully the areas closest to the stadium could have something done about it.

One of the finest Elizabethan manor houses in the country is right next door. 

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4 minutes ago, meregreen said:

One of the finest Elizabethan manor houses in the country is right next door. 

Very true. Maybe I should have said Aston in general is a shithole. Whilst Aston manor is beautiful, Aston is not a nice place to be. Some amazing architecture in places, but even they are mostly run down.

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1 minute ago, OutByEaster? said:

I'm not sure you noticed the 17th Century Jacobean mansion house set in parkland just next to the Trinity Road Stand, across the road from the Grade II listed church that's mentioned in the Domesday book, y'know, the one with the tree lined boulevards and the 19th century Edwardian school at the top end?

i mean, yeah, Aston is largely a shithole, but there's more than Villa Park and it ain't impossible to find.

Addressed ahead ⬆️

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I went to school in Aston from the age of 11. I caught 2 buses with a walk at each end, we played in Aston Park every lunchtime, (Only shot at once with an air rifle, missed) and we had to walk to the games pitches about a mile away once a week. (Again only shot at once with an air rifle, hit my mate on the arse!). There was occasionally bits of trouble but nothing serious. 

Now all the kids are dropped off and picked up by parents, but I’m not sure that’s indicative of the area being significantly worse. I think it’s more a case of both parents driving and being able to afford two cars. I mean all the kids get dropped off by car in Sutton theses days, even if they only live a 5 minute walk away. 

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2 hours ago, Jareth said:

You couldn't have done, I imagine it was an imam who happened to sound like Ozzy, or a Somali, or a random african - because it is 100% impossible that the local area has not been over run by rock hating immigrants. That's why I voted Brexit anyway. 

One does not simply play Black Sabbath in Aston! 

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1 hour ago, DaveAV1 said:

I went to school in Aston from the age of 11. I caught 2 buses with a walk at each end, we played in Aston Park every lunchtime, (Only shot at once with an air rifle, missed) and we had to walk to the games pitches about a mile away once a week. (Again only shot at once with an air rifle, hit my mate on the arse!). There was occasionally bits of trouble but nothing serious. 

Now all the kids are dropped off and picked up by parents, but I’m not sure that’s indicative of the area being significantly worse. I think it’s more a case of both parents driving and being able to afford two cars. I mean all the kids get dropped off by car in Sutton theses days, even if they only live a 5 minute walk away. 

Temperley.

 

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2 hours ago, DaveAV1 said:

I went to school in Aston from the age of 11. I caught 2 buses with a walk at each end, we played in Aston Park every lunchtime, (Only shot at once with an air rifle, missed) and we had to walk to the games pitches about a mile away once a week. (Again only shot at once with an air rifle, hit my mate on the arse!). There was occasionally bits of trouble but nothing serious. 

Now all the kids are dropped off and picked up by parents, but I’m not sure that’s indicative of the area being significantly worse. I think it’s more a case of both parents driving and being able to afford two cars. I mean all the kids get dropped off by car in Sutton theses days, even if they only live a 5 minute walk away. 

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King Edwards Aston - solidly Villa when I went there. We used to play Villa v the rest and still outnumber the noses and glory hunters. 

As for moving the ground if you think the people of somewhere like Sutton are going to put up with the disruption of having thousands of people descend on your area once a fortnight then you’re living in dream world. Maybe we should do a Reading and move to some soulless industrial estate on the edge of town,

Aston is far from desirable but then again neither is Anfield, Walton and lots of other areas where traditional grounds are located. The locals in Aston are a lot more accommodating than I would be if I lived near a football ground.

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1 hour ago, KT3AVFC said:

King Edwards Aston - solidly Villa when I went there. We used to play Villa v the rest and still outnumber the noses and glory hunters. 

As for moving the ground if you think the people of somewhere like Sutton are going to put up with the disruption of having thousands of people descend on your area once a fortnight then you’re living in dream world. Maybe we should do a Reading and move to some soulless industrial estate on the edge of town,

Aston is far from desirable but then again neither is Anfield, Walton and lots of other areas where traditional grounds are located. The locals in Aston are a lot more accommodating than I would be if I lived near a football ground.

thousands of people can also generate money to that area they are descending on, places like pubs, off licences, possibly hotels get a cash generation on match day.

Public transport gets congested though.

You do however get your area recognised more when your local team or one of them is walking on through.

There is tons to look at when talking about a move from aston, it affects many.

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its almost like there's a correlation between the football stadium and the value of the surrounding houses 🤔

London is obviously a different animal* but id be surprised, and im struggling to remember any football grounds set in a nice area

which is the problem if we did ever look at moving, we would probably only get planning permission for a soulless trading estate / retail park somewhere, or more likely they would want it like an NFL project where we spend 500m on the stadium and then a further 500m on the surrounding infrastructure and facilities to try and drag the area up (like they've done since building Wembley - *which is an example of a London stadium in an absolute shit hole)

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12 hours ago, 7392craig said:

Very true. Maybe I should have said Aston in general is a shithole. Whilst Aston manor is beautiful, Aston is not a nice place to be. Some amazing architecture in places, but even they are mostly run down.

By the way for those of you who do not know it. It was once owned by the Holte family Hence The Famous Holte End 

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It’s quite simple, we’re Aston Villa, we’re from Aston and that’s where we should stay forever.  

I love Villa Park, I feel the same sense of excited anticipation every time I approach the ground, walk up the steps of The Holte and see the pitch. It’s truly magical and for me wouldn’t ever quite be the same in a modern bowl.

I remember  watching from the Trinity Road with my Dad, when they tried to divide The Holte and the fence was ripped out of the ground  “You’ll never take the Holte End” sang for the whole match. As a young man The Holte became my home. I was there for the final stand. 

Yes the stands have changed over the years and not always for the better, but somehow the glorious old place holds on to the magic. A part of me would die if we ever left. I wouldn’t change it for the world. 

Villa in our blood and Aston in our lungs. 

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38 minutes ago, Robtaylor200 said:

By the way for those of you who do not know it. It was once owned by the Holte family Hence The Famous Holte End 

And, of course, the family enclosure.

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