TrentVilla Posted September 29, 2016 Moderator Share Posted September 29, 2016 52 minutes ago, villa89 said: This. I mean seriously what the ...? What sort of a manager asks the owner to do something like that. One sucking up fearing the sack perhaps.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 2 hours ago, Keener window-cleaner said: Someone please get hold of that video! What could it be? A pep talk? Just a good luck message? Some chineese sayings? Mao quotes? And what would he wear on the video? It would be a white suit, that looks a little bit like oversized pyjamas, a black belt around his waste, a bandana around is head and some nunchuks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 If I were the owner and the manager asked me to do this I'd sack him instantly. But not before saying "that's your job and that's why I pay you . You're supposed to be the **** expert " 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancvillan Posted September 29, 2016 Author Share Posted September 29, 2016 25 minutes ago, Tom13 said: Are you reading these? It's a travesty that I can only like this once. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 I just hacked RDM's email and found Xia's email to the squad subject: If a load of prisoners can do this, maybe a squad worth 60 mil can win a **** game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 6 hours ago, Mjvilla said: I really really like briny_ear and have lots of respect for what he says!! You shouldn't. I never tell the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewie Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Dr X: Hey Reberto, team is awful, should I send them a motivational video since I can't be there day to day? RDM: Well, err, I guess, I mean it's your club to do with what you please. Dr X: Great, I'll get right on it. Cheers for asking. RDM: O_o 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Sorry, why are we assuming that there's no possibility that somewhere between Xia's bad English or his massive ego that the situation is a little less cut-and-dried than it appears from that tweet? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 13 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Sorry, why are we assuming that there's no possibility that somewhere between Xia's bad English or his massive ego that the situation is a little less cut-and-dried than it appears from that tweet? Because that doesn't fit the Di Matteo out agenda... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 (edited) 35 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Sorry, why are we assuming that there's no possibility that somewhere between Xia's bad English or his massive ego that the situation is a little less cut-and-dried than it appears from that tweet? In fairness that could well be the case which is another reason why he should just keep stum. We fail to win the next game then I can imagine this being thrown back in his face. It also gets headlines in the media that the manager doesn’t need and undermines him assuming he hasn't gone to the owner and asked for this as the owner has stated. Edited September 30, 2016 by markavfc40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godders Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 4 minutes ago, markavfc40 said: We lose the next game then I can imagine this being thrown back in his face. If we win the next game then, is this lauded as a genius bit of leadership from both RDM and Xia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Godders said: If we win the next game then, is this lauded as a genius bit of leadership from both RDM and Xia? If we are going to start to consider things genius just because we beat Preston then we have fallen even lower than any of us thought mate. Edited September 30, 2016 by markavfc40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG_Villa_Fan Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Why do we assume the video to be some sort of Krulak war speech that players would likely facepalm at? I'm pretty sure the message's purpose would be to assure them Di Matteo's job is safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 4 minutes ago, BG_Villa_Fan said: Why do we assume the video to be some sort of Krulak war speech that players would likely facepalm at? I'm pretty sure the message's purpose would be to assure them Di Matteo's job is safe. That'd be even more **** bizarre. "hey boss, my players think I might get sacked, could you record a video telling them I'm staying please?" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG_Villa_Fan Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Davkaus said: That'd be even more **** bizarre. "hey boss, my players think I might get sacked, could you record a video telling them I'm staying please?" Why? It's all over the news. Two games and what not. There surely must be tension in the dressing room. If RDM and Xia spoke and Xia reassured him he's not sacking him and will be giving him time then I think the best thing the manager should do is to ask him to support him publicly. Edited September 30, 2016 by BG_Villa_Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godders Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 (edited) You're right @markavfc40. It was a poor thought through argument on my part. I just find it pretty incredible though that we've seemingly managed to collectivley assume that the video to the lads that RDM asked for, has come about through some variation of RDM going cap in hand to Tony and asking him to motivate the players because he can't. What if RDM has been banging on to the team and Xia that the squad is more than good enough for automatic promotion. Since not all players are on promotion bonuses, or the promotion bonuses don't differentiate between auto promotion and promotion through the playoffs, Xia agrees to each player getting an ad-hoc bonus over and above what's in their contract, should we finish in the top 2. The video is simply the method to communicate this to the players. Nothing there to suggest that RDM is a rubbish manager. On the contrary, it would be an example of him using all the motivational tools at his disposal to get his team achieve their target. And nothing there to suggest Xia is treading on RDM's toes, or doing his job for him. Obviously this is one of many possible reasons why this video was done. Edit: also, the video is to "the lads". We don't if that's the first team, the new signings, the old guys, the youth team etc. Edited September 30, 2016 by Godders 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 1 minute ago, Godders said: Obviously this is one of many possible reasons why this video was done. You are right there are a number of possibilities which leads to all kinds of theories from fans and in the media as to what has gone on here. I think Xia would be better off keeping some things in house. Beat Preston and this won't be an issue after. Fail to beat them then I'd imagine this will be twisted, rightly or wrongly, and thrown back in his face and, again rightly or wrongly, used as a stick to beat Di Matteo with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 (edited) 10 hours ago, Richard said: If I were the owner and the manager asked me to do this I'd sack him instantly. But not before saying "that's your job and that's why I pay you . You're supposed to be the **** expert " Im pretty sure he didn't ask XIA to do the video. Dr Tony told him was doing it, and Mr Feeble RDM - said 'good idea boss' Its almost like Smithers and Montgomery burns from the simpsons ! Edited September 30, 2016 by hippo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 (edited) 20 minutes ago, hippo said: Im pretty sure he didn't ask XIA to do the video. Dr Tony told him was doing it, and Mr Feeble RDM - said 'good idea boss' How can you know this when the tweet specifically says that RDM asked Tony to do it? It doesn't say I asked RDM if a video was a good idea and he said yes. I'm not having a go at you but because the owner communicates via this moronic form of social media he only has a limited number of words and every word will be taken literallly. If he wants to communicate with the fans then he should be using a less restrictive form of media and be clear in what he says. For example the club have a (terrible) website, perhaps he could tell us his thoughts on there. Edited September 30, 2016 by villa89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, villa89 said: If he wants to communicate with the fans then he should be using a less restrictive form of media I heard Twitter is close to allowing for more characters per post, not sure how much more, but hopefully it is used well by Tony. That said, although he's technically fluent in English, he is clearly limited, so Twitter is actually a smart platform for him. Don't forget Lerner. Never forget Lerner. I'll take vague, grammatically contorted Tweets over anything Lerner ever did or never did regarding accessibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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