VillaChris Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 1 hour ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: I don't see where they're coming from and I don't see Bruce halting this slide. I hope I'm wrong. 4 points from Bristol and Rotherham. 4 points from Norwich and QPR home games. Point away at Burton Point at Wigan. Point at home to Reading Point at home to SHA Point at Blackburn Point at home to Brighton reserves on final day. 50 points. Even then if that's all Steve Bruce can come up with for rest of the season he has no business being here in August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 I think we'll turn the season around and won't go down, but the fact we're even having this duscussion with huge investment and one of this league's biggest managerial names is something else. I still think it's down to the team not having had enough time to gel yet. Also that coupled with the fact that we have a completely useless keeper and too many chances squandered. It'll be ugly, but we'll turn this around. I always react like a nutter after another dismal loss, but I've seen something good in all our new signings so I'm not completely at a loss for hope just yet. Let's just survive and build a **** foundation for once. That's all I want right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 It would be nice to have a strong finish to the season and a settled transfer window where we are not buying and selling half the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 8 hours ago, VillaChris said: 4 points from Bristol and Rotherham. 4 points from Norwich and QPR home games. Point away at Burton Point at Wigan. Point at home to Reading Point at home to SHA Point at Blackburn Point at home to Brighton reserves on final day. 50 points. Even then if that's all Steve Bruce can come up with for rest of the season he has no business being here in August. Optimistic with alot of those IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 8 hours ago, LondonLax said: It would be nice to have a strong finish to the season and a settled transfer window where we are not buying and selling half the squad. you want to keep half this squad? Loads to go in the summer. Loads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 35 minutes ago, VILLAMARV said: you want to keep half this squad? Loads to go in the summer. Loads. We can't keep changing personal. We need stability. We have a more expensive squad than virtualy every side above us. Spending more money won't help. The reason those cheaper squads are doing much better than us is because they have stability. Everyone knows their role, everyone knows each other's strengths and weaknesses, every one knows the plan and what each other is going to do over the 90 mins. We are a bunch of strangers playing like they've just started preseason training together. Starting the whole process again in the summer will be another step backwards. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 38 minutes ago, VILLAMARV said: you want to keep half this squad? Loads to go in the summer. Loads. No way. We'll never get anywhere if we keep doing that every window. There should be a couple of changes here and there not drastic. Stability is what we need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 (edited) Manager, backroom staff, DCM, Keeper, CB, LW and possibly LB. Then we will be in a pretty good position when the next season starts. Providing we can stay in this league that is. Edited February 16, 2017 by sne 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 I want to see stability as much as the next man but Hutton, Bunn and Kozak all leave in the summer anyway. Johnstone has gotta be sent back at this rate. Richards is leeching money. Cissokho should leave. I can't see a future here for Bacuna past the summer. Veretout and Gil will probably be sold, Sanchez is off I believe, Tish will be back along with GG and Lyden to compliment Jedi, Lansbury, Hourihane, Bjarnason - seems a lot of average midfielders in there for me and too many and a lack of balance. McCormack - well who can say, Gabby - can't see him giving up his last year of paychecks myself if up to 12 of them left it wouldn't surprise me or do us any harm. I call for continuity mostly, but with that lot (new midfielders aside from those I've mentioned) I'm not sure what we'd want to keep or why. Stability comes after the clearout for me, and we haven't finished yet imo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 10 minutes ago, sne said: Manager, backroom staff, DCM, Keeper, CB, LW and possibly LB. Then we will be in a pretty good position when the next season starts. Providing we can stay in this league that is. Personally I think that a big part of our problem is that we have too many new players. Changing 5 more would increase our problem. I'd like to have a stable summer with possibly just a new experienced keeper being the priority and then see how we go to January. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 I think the general football world has woken up to the fact that we could go down. A shocking state of affairs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted February 16, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted February 16, 2017 It's utterly baffling really. Spend £70m in the Championship and still might get relegated. Where do you begin trying to fix this mess if that happens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmarsha_926 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 45 points have been enough 5 of the last 6 seasons 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keener window-cleaner Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 I can't even remember when we last won a game :-( 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 6 minutes ago, Davkaus said: That really is not good at all. As I've said before, I was willing to give him to the summer and then replace him. But I don't think we can afford to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smg Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 How do all these relate to points won ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prmort Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 From the above caption... RDM 10 pts and SB 8 pts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjvilla Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 23 hours ago, VILLAMARV said: I want to see stability as much as the next man but Hutton, Bunn and Kozak all leave in the summer anyway. Johnstone has gotta be sent back at this rate. Richards is leeching money. Cissokho should leave. I can't see a future here for Bacuna past the summer. Veretout and Gil will probably be sold, Sanchez is off I believe, Tish will be back along with GG and Lyden to compliment Jedi, Lansbury, Hourihane, Bjarnason - seems a lot of average midfielders in there for me and too many and a lack of balance. McCormack - well who can say, Gabby - can't see him giving up his last year of paychecks myself if up to 12 of them left it wouldn't surprise me or do us any harm. I call for continuity mostly, but with that lot (new midfielders aside from those I've mentioned) I'm not sure what we'd want to keep or why. Stability comes after the clearout for me, and we haven't finished yet imo. I think, out the ones you mention, barely any of them play. I think the stability comes from keeping the first team squad together, the ones that play, and adding to them where needed I.e goalkeeper. Letting go of the majority of those players you mention won't affect stability. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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