mallett Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 I am not sure about de Laet - he has struggled to be the first choice RB at every club he has been at. I wonder if once the his main positive attribute of not being Hutton has grown old whether us fans will find his suspect defensive qualities means he is not much of an upgrade. Swapping rubbish fullbacks for more rubbish fullbacks while losing money on the transaction reminds me of Lambert era transfers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadoftrinity Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 5 minutes ago, mallett said: I am not sure about de Laet - he has struggled to be the first choice RB at every club he has been at. I wonder if once the his main positive attribute of not being Hutton has grown old whether us fans will find his suspect defensive qualities means he is not much of an upgrade. Swapping rubbish fullbacks for more rubbish fullbacks while losing money on the transaction reminds me of Lambert era transfers. Agree to an extent, but Hutton has been so shit surely anyone could be better. I have been more tempted to loan a young player from one of the big sides, Cameron Borthwick-Jackson for example or someone like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 18 minutes ago, mallett said: Mulling over the Luton game again and after reading RDM's comments about the collapse of teamwork, I still think we could do with selling Ayew. I know that he is one of our more talented players but actually at championship level talent isn't the problem with the majority of our squad from last year. The issues are attitude, confidence and having other right mental attributes. These issues of character and mentality have poisoned the club though and we still need to get rid of more players if we are to change the direction of the club. I guess before the Luton game we were all hoping that the new management and new players might have been enough to turn it around. But we have now played and lost in a way reminiscent of last season in our 3 last games including Middlesbrough. We need more out (and more in). For me Ayew has issues with his character, he gets frustrated with his useless team mates too easily and starts trying to do everything all by himself. He doesn't have a lot of end product and the figures for his career suggest he never has done, I wonder if he ever will. As he is one of the few players from last year we could get a good fee for I think we should do it and get someone else in of similar talent but a better mentality. I'd also like to see us get rid of Westwood. I like Westwood, he has always worked hard for the team which can't be said of many others from last year. But frankly I think the club has destroyed his confidence and he needs a new start. Let's get some money for him and a replacement. I should also say that I take it for granted that we get rid of the deadwood such as Lescott, Gabby, Richards, bennett, Bacuna, Hutton, Cissokho & Kozak. Of course these players will be harder and perhaps even expensive to get rid of. Kozak I have some sympathy for - I am not sure if he was ever good enough - but he has had some terrible injuries. That there has been something fundamentally wrong behind the scenes for a long time is illustrated by the way that Kozak had a broken bone undiagnosed for months and was later forced to get his own personal trainer to get himself into shape after coming back from injury. Perhaps he just needs a new start. Is there still enough time to get enough people our (and in)? If he is our most talented player, but gets frustrated with his useless teammates, I don't see the point in selling him when it looks like we will be bringing lots of better teammates for him. Just move him up into the top third more and we will get much more out of him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 30 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Yep. I swear we were saying the same thing this time last season tho its true.. but this time these signings.. we know what they offer..... we gambled on foreigners last time around 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 59 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Gollini, De Laet, Elphick, Chester, Tshibola, Jedinak, Morrison, Hernandez/Bamford. If that comes off its been a hell of a window. You have forgotten McCormack! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 59 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Yep. I swear we were saying the same thing this time last season tho Haha so true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 1 hour ago, mallett said: I am not sure about de Laet - he has struggled to be the first choice RB at every club he has been at. I wonder if once the his main positive attribute of not being Hutton has grown old whether us fans will find his suspect defensive qualities means he is not much of an upgrade. Swapping rubbish fullbacks for more rubbish fullbacks while losing money on the transaction reminds me of Lambert era transfers. Thought he played a part in Leicester's promotion and Boro's last year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginko Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 I'm another one who's a bit unsure about De Laet. The times I saw him play last season I specifically noticed him being the weakest link in Leicester's team. So much so I remember chatting to my Leicester-supporting friend and even he agreed to some extent. But this was the Premier League and they were challenging for the title and we have to keep in mind we are light years away from that right now. Yeah, talk of signing De Laet doesn't exactly get my heart racing but he may very well be a pretty good option at this level. I'd certainly play him ahead of Hutton and Bacuna and he has the advantage of not only not having the loser mentality that our squad from last season seem to have, but a winning one from being part of such a successful Leicester team in recent years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Thomas Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Ginko said: Yeah, talk of signing De Laet doesn't exactly get my heart racing but he may very well be a pretty good option at this level. I'd certainly play him ahead of Hutton and Bacuna and he has the advantage of not only not having the loser mentality that our squad from last season seem to have, but a winning one from being part of such a successful Leicester team in recent years. I think this is it, we just someone solid who can do a solid job in the championship. I would be happy if we got him tbh; mainly because we would see less of Hutton, Bacuna or Richards in there. Saying that, I'd be happy with just about anyone if it means we don't have to play one of the three amigos at RB! Edited August 13, 2016 by Gary Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted August 13, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted August 13, 2016 1 hour ago, Keyblade said: Yep. I swear we were saying the same thing this time last season tho It's no guarantee, but it's hope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 1 hour ago, DCJonah said: Gollini, De Laet, Elphick, Chester, Tshibola, Jedinak, Morrison, Hernandez/Bamford. If that comes off its been a hell of a window. I agree, but I still worry about the lack of width. Not sure how RDM would be able to fit Ayew, Bamford and RMC in the same team, let alone if Morrison comes. Its been a great window so far, if only for the dross we've moved on. UTV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponky Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 14 minutes ago, AVTuco said: It's no guarantee, but it's hope! This time last year we were turning up our noses at the likes of Aaron Lennon and Andros Townsend. I suspect we know better now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Not sure about Gunnarsson . Be surprised if it's him we are after Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrusr Posted August 13, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted August 13, 2016 1 hour ago, mallett said: I am not sure about de Laet - he has struggled to be the first choice RB at every club he has been at. I wonder if once the his main positive attribute of not being Hutton has grown old whether us fans will find his suspect defensive qualities means he is not much of an upgrade. Swapping rubbish fullbacks for more rubbish fullbacks while losing money on the transaction reminds me of Lambert era transfers. Fell behind Danny Simpson at Leicester; still managed to get in 12 league games (plus 3 cup games) for Leicester last season before his loan. Then got 10 games for Middlesbrough 2nd half of the season and got promoted with them also. I might go out on the limb here, but his pedigree last season is somewhat better than our current choices. Also, he could have just sat on his arse and continued playing a bit part for Leicester and still be a league winner, but actively moved to get more 1st team football and willing to move down a league for it. That to me sounds like he has the right character. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 9 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: I agree, but I still worry about the lack of width. Not sure how RDM would be able to fit Ayew, Bamford and RMC in the same team, let alone if Morrison comes. Its been a great window so far, if only for the dross we've moved on. UTV Having options and being able to rotate without losing quality will be very helpful in our promotion push. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjvilla Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Thought Oliver Burke looked very good for forest last night. I know they got beat but he was one of the best players on the pitch. Would be a welcome addition if we were to try for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 2 hours ago, mallett said: his main positive attribute of not being Hutton. That alone is worth £10m. Think of the lives of the poor people in row Z that will be saved. Plus there's less chance he'll end someone's career with his trademark knee high tackles. Remember when we gave him a new contract? What a shambles of a club we were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nnock1984 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Gollini De Laet Elphick Chester Amavi Jedinak Tish Morrison Ayew McCormack Bamford Bunn, Baker, Bacuna, Westwood, Grealish, Traore, Gestede That 18 should get promotion and we're only 4 players off that! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 (edited) 16 hours ago, StefanAVFC said: You confuse me bobzy. You're unconvinced about Chester who has proven more in the PL than bamford and I would say they're about even with regards to the championship then you rate bamford. At least be consistent! I know! It's almost like players have differing degrees of ability or something. Crazy, right?! Edited August 13, 2016 by bobzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted August 13, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted August 13, 2016 7 minutes ago, nnock1984 said: Gollini De Laet Elphick Chester Amavi Jedinak Tish Morrison Ayew McCormack Bamford Bunn, Baker, Bacuna, Westwood, Grealish, Traore, Gestede That 18 should get promotion and we're only 4 players off that! That's a decent side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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