Popular Post BOF Posted October 27, 2015 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2015 Please stop mentioning AVB is making others will laugh at our level of delusion and ignorance. Firstly I'm not suggesting he'd come, but more importantly I couldn't give a f**k what 'others' think. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted October 27, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted October 27, 2015 72 points he managed in his season at spurs. A record for them in the premier league apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Mourico PochettinoRonald KoemanJosé MourinhoSlavan BilicLouis van GaalArsene WengerRoberto MartinezManuel Pellegrini Not a single minutes premier league experience before they came, different levels of relative experience elsewhere granted. Times are changing, they've already changed, about time we got with the program. Or we could settle for Steve Bruce. I hear Tim Sherwood and Paul Lambert are looking for work too.Quite true but theres also a lot that have failed.VenglosDi CaneoScolariArdilesGrossPerrinRamosAdvocaat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernova26 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I've glad you've confirmed the first bit. The second bit is obvious. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Moyes is the name at the top of my list purely because I'd feel we'd be safe the minute we announced it. Same would be true for Allardyce and Pulis. Guaranteed not to be pretty. But would surprise everyone if they got themselves relegated. Shame none of them are available huh, But all 3 of them would at least make sure we kept posession from our own feckin throw ins ffs. Its too long and too many managers ago Ive been bleeting on about throw ins that Ive lost faith in the players and im fairly meh about Garde or anyone being able to get through to them tbh. The hope is still with and in the new players coz we know the others are ok-ish over 38 games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Edit - **** up the quoting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Mourico PochettinoRonald KoemanJosé MourinhoSlavan BilicLouis van GaalArsene WengerRoberto MartinezManuel Pellegrini Not a single minutes premier league experience before they came, different levels of relative experience elsewhere granted. Times are changing, they've already changed, about time we got with the program. Or we could settle for Steve Bruce. I hear Tim Sherwood and Paul Lambert are looking for work too.Quite true but theres also a lot that have failed.VenglosDi CaneoScolariArdilesGrossPerrinRamosAdvocaat Add ddimatteo, poyet and even Mancini / benitez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reivax_Villa Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Jacques Santini, Velimir Zajec & Gianluca Vialli as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Mourico PochettinoRonald KoemanJosé MourinhoSlavan BilicLouis van GaalArsene WengerRoberto MartinezManuel Pellegrini Not a single minutes premier league experience before they came, different levels of relative experience elsewhere granted. Times are changing, they've already changed, about time we got with the program. Or we could settle for Steve Bruce. I hear Tim Sherwood and Paul Lambert are looking for work too.Quite true but theres also a lot that have failed.VenglosDi CaneoScolariArdilesGrossPerrinRamosAdvocaat Add ddimatteo, poyet and even Mancini / benitez.It should be fairly obvious that I've named current managers only there. As in current managers in the modern game, I've not had to go back 15 years or more to find examples of failures when the game WAS different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Equally I can list a bunch of managers with Premier League experience who haven't exactly covered themselves in glory. It really means naff all. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted October 27, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted October 27, 2015 Mourico PochettinoRonald KoemanJosé MourinhoSlavan BilicLouis van GaalArsene WengerRoberto MartinezManuel Pellegrini Not a single minutes premier league experience before they came, different levels of relative experience elsewhere granted. Times are changing, they've already changed, about time we got with the program. Or we could settle for Steve Bruce. I hear Tim Sherwood and Paul Lambert are looking for work too.Quite true but theres also a lot that have failed.VenglosDi CaneoScolariArdilesGrossPerrinRamosAdvocaat That was, sort of, his point.Managers succeed and fail regardless of what experience they do and don't have.A good manager is a good manager. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdomlahor Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Please stop mentioning AVB is making others will laugh at our level of delusion and ignorance. Why are you taking any and every opportunity to put the club down? I don't see any reason why he wouldn't consider us if he wanted to return to England. You're acting as if we're this tiny little club no-one's ever heard of. This is the most popular league in the world and a lot of managers would jump at the chance to manage here.We're allegedly on the verge of appointing a manager Lyon were desperate to keep. Garde reached the quarter-finals of the Champions League. What exactly has AVB done so amazingly that he's out of our reach? Win the league with the richest team in Russia? Not exactly an amazing feat. He failed at Chelsea and Spurs sacked him, rightly or wrongly.The Champions league is great, but if that's the argument your using, why do Celtic never end up with any managers who have a pedigree in the top European leagues? Because their domestic league is a joke. Not dis-similar to the Russian league.But if you choose to wollow is self-pity and laugh at others for showing "ambition" and generally just speculating, you're more than welcome. Just don't expect them to be very forgiving when you're found to be talking utter bollocks, as you've been doing recently. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) When I foreign Manager fails at a club it could be for a number of reasons, maybe they are not a good fit for that particular club, maybe they just aren't very good at their job.The automatic conclusion that they have failed because they haven't/cannot adapt to English football is a pretty lazy IMO. A lot of the names above, Di canio for instance. He didn't fail because of the English game, he failed because he is bat shit crazy and a crap football Manager. Edited October 28, 2015 by av1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mantis Posted October 27, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2015 Bloody foreigners, coming in 'ere taking our jobs. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dont_do_it_doug. Posted October 27, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2015 I feel like the discussion has been twisted and I'm now having to defend an opinion that managers coming in from abroad are predisposed to succeed when I've not suggested anything of the sort. Of course there are failures, as there will be in any high level profession. The ONLY question that should matter to us is whether he is a forward thinking, highly motivated, progressive football manager and whether he possesses the skills to potentially turn our fortunes around. Everything else, including experience, is basically irrelevant. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I feel like the discussion has been twisted and I'm now having to defend an opinion that managers coming in from abroad are predisposed to succeed when I've not suggested anything of the sort. Of course there are failures, as there will be in any high level profession. The ONLY question that should matter to us is whether he is a forward thinking, highly motivated, progressive football manager and whether he possesses the skills to potentially turn our fortunes around. Everything else, including experience, is basically irrelevant. someone assuming that because you contest one hyperbolic and factually dubious opinion you steadfastly believe in the polar opposite of that opinion? Here? on VillaTalk?I'm not having it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanO Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Seriously who cares where they come from? as long they are capable of doing the job.I see the list of foreign managers who have successfully managed clubs and those who haven't but there have been many homegrown managers who have failed so just get the man. (I have no idea who that is though)I'm obviously worried because whoever it is has a very difficult job to do, as we have seen Sherwood was the latest to fail. We can't afford another mistake. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il_serpente Posted October 28, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted October 28, 2015 I feel like the discussion has been twisted and I'm now having to defend an opinion that managers coming in from abroad are predisposed to succeed when I've not suggested anything of the sort. Of course there are failures, as there will be in any high level profession. The ONLY question that should matter to us is whether he is a forward thinking, highly motivated, progressive football manager and whether he possesses the skills to potentially turn our fortunes around. Everything else, including experience, is basically irrelevant. You're going to look mighty foolish when Garde doesn't win us the league like you've guaranteed... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted October 28, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted October 28, 2015 (edited) I feel like the discussion has been twisted and I'm now having to defend an opinion that managers coming in from abroad are predisposed to succeed when I've not suggested anything of the sort. Of course there are failures, as there will be in any high level profession. The ONLY question that should matter to us is whether he is a forward thinking, highly motivated, progressive football manager and whether he possesses the skills to potentially turn our fortunes around. Everything else, including experience, is basically irrelevant. You're going to look mighty foolish when Garde doesn't win us the league like you've guaranteed...[Slightly dickish response-post removed.] Edited October 28, 2015 by Marka Ragnos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Really? His post seemed to be quite obviously joining in on the joke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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