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Either incredibly poor taste of a "joke" or something really bad is about to happen.

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Cal State Northridge police continue investigating a mass shooting threat to the university following the discovery of another threatening message on the school's campus late Monday.
The new threat -- a note found by a student in Sierra Hall -- said a shooting will take place Wednesday at CSUN. The note threatens to kill as many people possible.
Toward the end of the note, it threatens killing professors and teachers for "making students depressed."
The note came to police's attention at 10:44 p.m., according to CSUN Police Chief Anne P. Glavin.
Camus police are receiving assistance from the Los Angeles Police Department on the matter, and the investigation is in its early stages, Glavin said. CSUN police said it does not believe there is an "imminent threat" to the campus.
"Sadly, the world in which we live requires we take threats of violence and expressions of hate seriously - even when there is no evidence to suggest that the threatened acts are likely to materialize," a statement by the university's president, Dr. Dianne F. Harrison, read in part.

NORTHRIDGE, Calif. (KABC) --

A mass shooting threat was written inside a bathroom at Cal State Northridge, prompting the university to investigate on Wednesday.
A student discovered the graffiti at Sierra Hall that read, "Mass shooting in Sierra Hall 12/12/18."
A swastika was scrawled under the message.
Images of the graffiti circulated on social media and police were seen at the campus late at night.
"CSUN is aware of the hateful and offensive graffiti in Sierra Hall," the university said in a statement to Eyewitness News. "CSUN Police are investigating this use of hateful language and symbols and threat against our community. We are working to remove this offensive graffiti immediately. CSUN condemns this graffiti in the strongest possible terms."

https://abc7.com/csun-police-increase-patrols-amid-new-mass-shooting-threat/4877588/

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5 hours ago, TheAuthority said:

US bans bump stocks 

Saying after the horse has bolted seems trite.....

I mean is this is a positive? Relative to the rest of the developed world it seems ridiculous but I suppose it's a win of sorts?

It’s the thin edge of the wedge mate. You ban bump stocks and semi automatic assault rifles could be next! A sad day for freedom. 

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9 hours ago, TheAuthority said:

US bans bump stocks 

Saying after the horse has bolted seems trite.....

I mean is this is a positive? Relative to the rest of the developed world it seems ridiculous but I suppose it's a win of sorts?

Are they actually banned, or are there all sorts of exemptions for those buying them from gun shows or whatever?

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2 hours ago, HanoiVillan said:

Are they actually banned, or are there all sorts of exemptions for those buying them from gun shows or whatever?

I’m not sure. The devil is probably in the details as usual. 

I am sure that that the politicians that are bought and paid for by the NRA won’t vote for anything that harms the gun manufacturers pockets too much.

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Absolutely heartbreaking story:

‘What if someone was shooting?’

'Locked behind their green classroom door, MaKenzie Woody and 25 other first-graders huddled in the darkness. She sat on the vinyl tile floor against a far wall, beneath a taped-up list of phrases the kids were encouraged to say to each other: “I like you,” “You’re a rainbow,” “Are you ok?”

In that moment, though, the 6-year-old didn’t say anything at all, because she believed that a man with a gun was stalking the hallways of her school in the nation’s capital, and MaKenzie feared what he might do to her.

Three times between September and November, bursts of gunfire near MaKenzie’s public charter elementary school led DC Prep to seal off its Southeast Washington campus and sequester its students. During the last one, on Nov. 16, a silver sedan parked just around the corner at 10:42 a.m., then the men inside stepped out and fired more than 40 rounds. As MaKenzie’s class hid upstairs, teachers frantically rushed three dozen preschoolers off the playground and back into the building.

“The lockdowns,” as MaKenzie calls them, have changed her, because the little girl with long braids and chocolate-brown eyes remembers what it was like before them, when she always felt safe at her Anacostia school, and she knows what it’s been like afterward, when that feeling disappeared.

School shootings remain rare, even after 2018, a year of historic carnage on K-12 campuses. What’s not rare are lockdowns, which have become a hallmark of American education and a byproduct of this country’s inability to curb its gun violence epidemic. Lockdowns save lives during real attacks, but even when there is no gunman stalking the hallways, the procedures can inflict immense psychological damage on children convinced that they’re in danger. And the number of kids who have experienced these ordeals is extraordinary.

More than 4.1 million students endured at least one lockdown in the 2017-2018 school year alone, according to a first-of-its-kind analysis by The Washington Post that included a review of 20,000 news stories and data from school districts in 31 of the country’s largest cities.

The number of students affected eclipsed the populations of Maine, Rhode Island, Delaware and Vermont combined. But the total figure is likely much higher because many school districts — including in Detroit and Chicago — do not track them and hundreds never make the news, particularly when they happen at urban schools attended primarily by children of color.

Still, on a typical day last school year, at least 16 campuses locked down, with nine related to gun violence or the threat of it. The Post’s final tally of lockdowns exceeded 6,200.

The sudden order to hunker down can overwhelm students, who have wept and soiled themselves, written farewell messages to family members and wills explaining what should be done with their bicycles and PlayStations. The terror can feel especially acute right after school shootings like the one in Parkland, Fla., when kids are inundated with details from massacres that have taken the lives of students just like them.

In New York City earlier this year, rumors of a firearm on campus sparked panic at a Staten Island high school, where teens desperately texted and called their parents, begging for help, telling them, “I love you.”

In Fremont, Neb., students sobbed as they hid for nearly two hours in a girls’ locker room with the lights turned off after a teenager was spotted with a gun. When armed officers barged in, they ordered the kids to put their hands up.

In Pensacola, Fla., a sixth-grader messaged his grandmother, certain a shooter was in the building after social media threats triggered a lockdown. “Please check me out before I doe,” he wrote her, then corrected his misspelling: “die.”

And then there are the kids like MaKenzie, who have never heard of Parkland or Sandy Hook or Columbine but have heard the sound of gunshots on the streets where they live and play and learn.'

More at the link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/local/school-lockdowns-in-america/

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49 minutes ago, MickeyC_UTV said:

tonight 9pm Channel 4 - Teachers Training to Kill - “This documentary meets teachers in Ohio who are learning to shoot and - if necessary - kill; and explores the heated debate in America around how to protect pupils from gun attacks.”

Such a blinkered view the lot of them, madness.

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1 hour ago, MickeyC_UTV said:

tonight 9pm Channel 4 - Teachers Training to Kill - “This documentary meets teachers in Ohio who are learning to shoot and - if necessary - kill; and explores the heated debate in America around how to protect pupils from gun attacks.”

Just watching it (live pause) and wondered if anyone had picked it up. 

Utterly baffling the amount of people who think throwing guns at a gun problem will work.

Also, that kid who got shot is amazing. 

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Amazing this thread is so far down and we all just sort of shrug now.  16 gun related deaths in the U.S. yesterday, bringing the total up to 7,539 for 2019.

Overall, a good day - down on the average of 40 gun related deaths per day this year.  Good work, Mr. President!

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39 minutes ago, bobzy said:

Amazing this thread is so far down and we all just sort of shrug now.  16 gun related deaths in the U.S. yesterday, bringing the total up to 7,539 for 2019.

Overall, a good day - down on the average of 40 gun related deaths per day this year.  Good work, Mr. President!

The heyjackass site still updates Chicago.

101 people shot so far this month and we're only 10 days in. 

Someone is shot in Chicago every 3 hours 21 minutes.

For reference the population of Chicago is pretty much the same as Manchester at around 2.7 million.

https://heyjackass.com/category/chicago-crime-2019/

July to Date
Shot & Killed: 10
Shot & Wounded: 91
Total Shot: 101
Total Homicides: 12

Chicago Crime 2019

Week in Progress (7/7 – 7/13)
Shot & Killed: 2
Shot & Wounded: 24
Total Shot: 26
Total Homicides: 3

Chicago Crime 2019

Year to Date
Shot & Killed: 240
Shot & Wounded: 1113
Total Shot: 1353
Total Homicides: 264

They even have radio from July the 4th which is usually a compolete shitshow thanks to too much booze & sun. Starts to get fun at about 2 hours 48 mins in or shortly after hitting play below. Proably NSFW as there is some language

 

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6 minutes ago, bobzy said:

Birmingham is the biggest city - only one with over 1mill population from memory.

Manchester has any number of small businesses calling themselves "Second City Plumbers", "Second City Caterers", etc. I think they should be legally obliged to change their names, or face prosecution. 

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8 minutes ago, bobzy said:

Birmingham is the biggest city - only one with over 1mill population from memory.

yeah it is but in order to try and put themselves above the number Manchester often turns itself in to greater Manchester, throwing in salford, bury I think Oldham and maybe even bolton

one for the things you often wonder thread I suppose with the Chicago comparison, Chicago being the yanks 2nd city and really not as big or maybe as important as say los angeles, im pretty sure brum and Chicago are twinned cities

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1 hour ago, mjmooney said:

Manchester has any number of small businesses calling themselves "Second City Plumbers", "Second City Caterers", etc. I think they should be legally obliged to change their names, or face prosecution. 

That's not how to spell execution. 

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