TheAuthority Posted October 28, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted October 28, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 As much as i think trump is a grade a bell end thats a massive stretch, hes joking, playing to the crowd The criticism should be that hes cracking jokes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 28, 2018 Moderator Share Posted October 28, 2018 1 hour ago, villa4europe said: As much as i think trump is a grade a bell end thats a massive stretch, hes joking, playing to the crowd The criticism should be that hes cracking jokes There's quite a bit of that in the US I've noticed. The completely missing the open goal because you're too busy claiming the free kick you should never have had 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted October 29, 2018 Moderator Share Posted October 29, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Thread on the entirely cynical Israeli government contribution to comments on the murders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted November 8, 2018 Moderator Share Posted November 8, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted November 8, 2018 Moderator Share Posted November 8, 2018 For Americans, guns are more important than people's lives. This is the only logical conclusion that you can draw based on events and their reactions to them. We should again today join America in celebrating their success. Sure, lives have been lost, but profit has been made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Debt and weaponry - very lucrative. lives? Meh, they'll be replaced, those missed dollars won't be. Just gotta hope it doesn't happen to me or someone I know innit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 This one is going to get blamed on Red Dead Redemption 2 ins't it? Shooter in his 20's, Country event at a bar, shooter wearing a black jacket, hat and a beard. Guess he could have just hit the wrong button and it all got out of hand, but once again I don't think more weapons is the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 12 people reported dead now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted November 8, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted November 8, 2018 If only they'd all taken their assault rifles dancing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Well you know, if every single person in that bar had a gun on them this would never have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straggler Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 8 minutes ago, Chindie said: If only they'd all taken their assault rifles dancing. You can bet that line will be trotted out at some point. They won't even bother with the fact that the murderer lobbed a smoke bomb in there. I don't want to imagine the carnage of a bunch of armed civilians in a gun fight in a smokey room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted November 8, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted November 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Straggler said: You can bet that line will be trotted out at some point. They won't even bother with the fact that the murderer lobbed a smoke bomb in there. I don't want to imagine the carnage of a bunch of drunk armed civilians in a gun fight in a smokey room. Amended that a little. But exactly. Comments now it was a Middle Eastern looking guy so the switch to a terror motive is coming shortly. Because brown people can't just go nuts and kill people without much reason like white people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 1 hour ago, OutByEaster? said: For Americans, guns are more important than people's lives. This is the only logical conclusion that you can draw based on events and their reactions to them. We should again today join America in celebrating their success. Sure, lives have been lost, but profit has been made. The poor souls, for the most part, believe the right to bear arms stems from the founding fathers being concerned with the individuals right to bear arms. It was a different world back then and even if the intention of the founding fathers was to create a militia where all permitted citizens would be part time soldiers and have the right to bear arms, in order to prevent the need for a professional army that might encroach on the freedoms of the nations people, the reality is that the militia would be more effective at policing nonwhites than it would be fighting enemy nations, making the law somewhat redundant outside of ensuring slavery and racism was easily maintained within American borders. The founding fathers envisioning all citizens be part time soldiers in the militia meant that if there was political conflict between citizens, who were relied upon to enforce the laws as part of the militia, there was also division within the militia. When these divisions of interest turned violent, the government did not enjoy a balance of power over the citizens, as they were trained and armed. It was a different time back then and the American founding fathers did not intend on wal-mart stocking AK-47s for the sake of it. Neither did they intend on the USA developing a professional army of world conquest proportion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 8, 2018 Moderator Share Posted November 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, A'Villan said: The poor souls, for the most part, believe the right to bear arms stems from the founding fathers being concerned with the individuals right to bear arms. It was a different world back then and even if the intention of the founding fathers was to create a militia where all permitted citizens would be part time soldiers and have the right to bear arms, in order to prevent the need for a professional army that might encroach on the freedoms of the nations people, the reality is that the militia would be more effective at policing nonwhites than it would be fighting enemy nations, making the law somewhat redundant outside of ensuring slavery and racism was easily maintained within American borders. The founding fathers envisioning all citizens be part time soldiers in the militia meant that if there was political conflict between citizens, who were relied upon to enforce the laws as part of the militia, there was also division within the militia. When these divisions of interest turned violent, the government did not enjoy a balance of power over the citizens, as they were trained and armed. It was a different time back then and the American founding fathers did not intend on wal-mart stocking AK-47s for the sake of it. Neither did they intend on the USA developing a professional army of world conquest proportion. No No No, it was so the people could overthrow a government they don't like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, bickster said: No No No, it was so the people could overthrow a government they don't like I get the impression you're being dead serious, but these things are hard to discern over text. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaninireland Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 So far this year Home 2018Total Number of Incidents 48,944Number of Deaths1 12,461Number of Injuries1 24,216Number of Children (age 0-11)Killed or Injured1 569Number of Teens (age 12-17)Killed or Injured1 2,426Mass Shooting2 306Officer Involved IncidentOfficer Shot or Killed2 251Officer Involved IncidentSubject-Suspect Shot or Killed2 1,827Home Invasion2 1,722Defensive Use2 1,523Unintentional Shooting2 1,345Gun violence and crime incidents are collected/validated from 2,500 sources daily – incidents and their source data are found at the gunviolencearchive.org website. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 One for the colour chart, “Middle Eastern looking” so we know it’s not a mental health issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 8, 2018 Moderator Share Posted November 8, 2018 23 minutes ago, A'Villan said: I get the impression you're being dead serious, but these things are hard to discern over text. You'll find plenty of gun owners in the US that will tell you that's the reason 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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