Popular Post briny_ear Posted May 23, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2015 (edited) Wasn't he supposed to be having a "showdown" meeting with Sherwood?Wonder how it went?Carles: Boss, realmente necesito saber si tengo un futuro en el equipo. ¿Por qué no me has seleccionado?Timmy: What are you on about? I can't understand a **** word you're saying!Carles: Qué? Edited May 23, 2015 by briny_ear 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted May 23, 2015 Moderator Share Posted May 23, 2015 Unless he's homesick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 (if I'm allowed to say that) You've made that same point over and over again. It's the only reason you post in the thread, isn't it? Nice one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Sherwood probably doesn't rate him and/or he's shit in training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 There is a lot more injury prone/dead wood stock i would like to see moved on before this guy! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 If Gil leaves before preseason I'd think that's more down to him. It would make no sense for Sherwood to want to get rid of a clearly talented player without giving him a preseason under him. Sherwood is not an idiot and isn't going to make his job more difficult. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Why cant we have icing on our cake. Just had 3 years of stale aldi brand shite under Lambert. Sort it out tim, why do you wanna upset me you slag. It'd be horrible if a PL side snap him up and we have to see him flourish. And if we are to lose Tekkers this summer aswell as CG it would be a double blow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 If it isn't something personal then he will play. I don't think he will play. Jesus. Why does it have to be "personal"? Because only a blind fool could think he isn't good enough to even make the bench. That will be Sherwood then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 If Tim doesn't want him here, that's good enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 (edited) If Tim doesn't want him here, that's good enough for me. It's also blind faith which nobody deserves in any aspect of life. Edited May 23, 2015 by StefanAVFC 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 (edited) Its probably pure speculation on the part of Gregg Evans but its not unreasonable to assume a player who is not part of the squad will be found surplus to requirements. Edited May 23, 2015 by PaulC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 If Tim doesn't want him here, that's good enough for me. It's also blind faith which nobody deserves in any aspect of life. It's not blind faith to acknowledge that someone else has more information available to them and/or is better qualified to make a more informed decision. IF Gil is not to stay at our club, I trust that the decision was either Gil's (possibly not settled well in the UK or has another offer/club/country more preferable to him), or Sherwood's (possibly Gil's attitude in training, concern over suitability to the Premier League or simply that Sherwood prefers existing Villa players in the same position), or a combination of both. I'm happy to accept Gil's and/or Sherwood's decision. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 If Tim doesn't want him here, that's good enough for me. It's also blind faith which nobody deserves in any aspect of life. It's not blind faith to acknowledge that someone else has more information available to them and/or is better qualified to make a more informed decision. IF Gil is not to stay at our club, I trust that the decision was either Gil's (possibly not settled well in the UK or has another offer/club/country more preferable to him), or Sherwood's (possibly Gil's attitude in training, concern over suitability to the Premier League or simply that Sherwood prefers existing Villa players in the same position), or a combination of both. I'm happy to accept Gil's and/or Sherwood's decision. Not disagreeing with you. The OP shows blind faith, which I disagree with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted May 23, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted May 23, 2015 Ok, let's leave aside prejudice and bias for a second. In pure numbers if we're looking to be a succesfull side we should be looking to have 2 players for every position. Sherwood seems to like playing with 2 "trequartistas" at the mo, and we have, with Gil, Grealish, Zog and Cole, 4 specialists in that position. Sinclair maybe but only as a wide part of a 3, not as part of a 2 in the 4-3-2-1 we've been playing. Now, Cole has't played much, Zog is getting longer in the tooth too, Gil is what 23? 22? He's got quite a bit left on his contract too. That said, how would it be a good idea for us to let him go? He had one bad 45 mins for Sherwood after looking to be our best player on the park in every other apperance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 23, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted May 23, 2015 I think we'll regret it if he leaves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 If Tim doesn't want him here, that's good enough for me. As much as I support Sherwood, I would question him washing his hands of Gil without giving him a proper chance. We have Joe Cole getting on the bench ahead of him who is not a long term option for this club in any shape or form given he's 34 and has limited fitness and N'zogbia who for me has played well but is in last year of his deal and needs to show a lot more of this next season before I'd consider handing him a new deal particularly as he's on decent wages anyway. Given we're playing two number 10s Gil should be given chances alongside Grealish behind a main forward next season. If he dosen't take the chances and Sherwood starts leaving him out, fair enough he can go in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 23, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted May 23, 2015 I think there could be more to it before we start blaming Sherwood. It might be that Gil is homesick and wants to leave. It could be that he's absolute dog shit in training. If (and it's a huge if) Sherwood has already decided that Gil has no future here then it would be disappointing from my point of view. But we're making a huge leap to get to that assumption. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 If Tim doesn't want him here, that's good enough for me. It's also blind faith which nobody deserves in any aspect of life. Not blind faith at all. I admit Gil looked good in the few games he played after arriving but he came into a side that was, frankly playing shite and devoid of any confidence. I would have looked good coming into that side and wanting to make a good impression. Sherwood and the coaching staff will have seen a lot of him in training over the last few months and if they deem him not good enough, has the wrong attitude or simply not cut out for a relegation battle or the style of play then that is more than enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Ok, let's leave aside prejudice and bias for a second. In pure numbers if we're looking to be a succesfull side we should be looking to have 2 players for every position. Sherwood seems to like playing with 2 "trequartistas" at the mo, and we have, with Gil, Grealish, Zog and Cole, 4 specialists in that position. Sinclair maybe but only as a wide part of a 3, not as part of a 2 in the 4-3-2-1 we've been playing. Now, Cole has't played much, Zog is getting longer in the tooth too, Gil is what 23? 22? He's got quite a bit left on his contract too. That said, how would it be a good idea for us to let him go? He had one bad 45 mins for Sherwood after looking to be our best player on the park in every other apperance. Sherwood has struck gold with the 4-3-2-1, we've looked very good in most games playing that and it has certainly got the best out of the three midfield players. That dosen't mean it will look brilliant for ever. Brendan Rodgers was giving himself self-congratulation pats on the back for going unbeaten with his 3 at the back. Looked great in the last 6 weeks hasn't it as most teams have worked out how to play it now. It's horses for courses formation wise next season. I can see us playing 4-4-2 in most home games against teams outside the top 8 as Sherwood will fancy outscoring a lot of them. We overwhelmed Sunderland and West Brom (first half) playing that. You need different players for each formation though in your squad. Sinclair obviously can't get in atm but Sherwood has as good as said he'll start when we go back to 4-4-2 next season. It's possible you could fit Gil into a 4-4-2 as similar to SIlva when Man. City play that but I fully understand why Sherwood would go for Grealish in that. In a 4-3-2-1 tho Gil should actually start sometime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Gil is 23 plenty of time to learn and get better, he is a keeper for me (no pun intented). Maybe a straight replacement for the talented Mr NZog as he is obviously known by Sherwood. Just give him a F***** go against Burnley Tim and show us what we are missing or not as maybe the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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