Zatman Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Welcome to the club Grant. Looking forward to experience, effort and a few goals. Ready-made replacement for Kozak IMV. your common sense isnt welcome around here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwan Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Yuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelboyVilla Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Well we signed another 30+ striker with an even more dubious skill set from Wigan in the January window some years ago, if only that had been a temporary signing Holt is far better player... So Holt who has spent 2 seasons in the Premier League and scored 23 top flight goals in 70 games is a far better player than Heskey who played 19 seasons in the Premier League scored over 100 goals and played 62 times for England? Well there's about 10 Premier League managers and 4 England managers that disagree with you, never mind countless top players. Ivanoe was shit for us but in terms of quality and achievements Holt isn't fit to clean his boots. Blimey - Heskey has a fan..... Not a fan but realistically to say Holt is a better footballer than Heskey is complete b*llocks just trying to justify an incredibly poor signing made by a desperate man who no longer knows how to spot a decent player! Our scouting system seems to be Lamberts little black book from 2005? Did you not read my original post ? - Holt is far better than Heskey.....its not even up for discussion..... That's funny, so when Heskey was playing in the Premier League it was a different Grant Holt playing in the 3rd Division because the Grant Holt we have signed was playing for Barca or Real as he is such a footballing great?? Nathan Baker, has more top flight experience than Holt! There's only Lambert who has ever thought Holt was good enough (and you) the rest of the footballing world bows to your superior knowledge?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I'll admit there have been some overreactions on here but can we clarify, without pointing fingers (as there has been a lot of personal sniping), that: Supporting Holt does not = delighted we have signed him Not supporting Holt does not = overreacting and/or being impossible to please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didiersix Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I hope Holt thinks he still has something to prove. Keep thowing the brickbats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Wonder which bit of the project this fits in with? The "Lambert hasn't got a ****ing clue what he's doing" bit of the project. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted January 14, 2014 Moderator Share Posted January 14, 2014 Wasn't it the case that he was linked with joining us at the same time as Lambert, having just scored 15 Premier League goals, and a good few Villa fans liked the idea? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted January 14, 2014 Moderator Share Posted January 14, 2014 Welcome to the club Grant. Looking forward to experience, effort and a few goals. Ready-made replacement for Kozak IMV. your common sense isnt welcome around here Yeah I noticed I interrupted a classic game of statistics top trumps based on previous seasons. They're right up there with my favourite kinds of productive discussion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villabromsgrove Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Grant Holt is a symptom of the Aston Villa sickness …. He's not the cure. It's like trying to treat a brain haemorrhage with a sticky plaster! I hope the guy plays a blinder for us, but I'm beginning to fear the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyp_avfc Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Welcome Grant, hope you can grab a few goals while your here... Not going to lie, a tad underwhelmed with this signing but I'll back him like any other player in the Claret and Blue! Bring on the next signing! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Well we signed another 30+ striker with an even more dubious skill set from Wigan in the January window some years ago, if only that had been a temporary signing Holt is far better player... So Holt who has spent 2 seasons in the Premier League and scored 23 top flight goals in 70 games is a far better player than Heskey who played 19 seasons in the Premier League scored over 100 goals and played 62 times for England? Well there's about 10 Premier League managers and 4 England managers that disagree with you, never mind countless top players. Ivanoe was shit for us but in terms of quality and achievements Holt isn't fit to clean his boots. Blimey - Heskey has a fan..... Not a fan but realistically to say Holt is a better footballer than Heskey is complete b*llocks just trying to justify an incredibly poor signing made by a desperate man who no longer knows how to spot a decent player! Our scouting system seems to be Lamberts little black book from 2005? Did you not read my original post ? - Holt is far better than Heskey.....its not even up for discussion..... That's funny, so when Heskey was playing in the Premier League it was a different Grant Holt playing in the 3rd Division because the Grant Holt we have signed was playing for Barca or Real as he is such a footballing great?? Nathan Baker, has more top flight experience than Holt! There's only Lambert who has ever thought Holt was good enough (and you) the rest of the footballing world bows to your superior knowledge?? At Last - Thank You..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 We are being mocked in the Twittersphere. That's the final straw for me. Lambert out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted January 14, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted January 14, 2014 Not really bothered about this unless it impacts other potential signings, if it does, then i'm pretty bothered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Houlston asked it earlier. If Holt is such a decent option as cover why doesn't an average championship team want him for this role? Also could we not recall bent back? Is that not an option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) I have an analogy. It's not perfect but it makes sense to an extent. This season, the Dallas Cowboys lost their starting QB Tony Romo. They then needed cover for cover and chose to go with Jon Kitna. 'Who is Jon Kitna?' - you might ask. Jon Kitna is a 41 year old maths teacher. He retired from the league 2 years ago and American football is a sport where, generally, the players retire far sooner (the stats are scewed by 41/42 year old kickers and 5head). They could have gone for a young player. They could have easily gone for a fitter, better player. They went for a player who 1) knows the game 2) knows the team 3) has experience and leadership As I said this isn't a perfect analogy but it helped me to get my head around the potential signing and the role that Holt could play within the squad. The logic and reasoning behind the signing has been posted numerous times in this thread. Whether or not you agree with it is another story but it's there. To say that 'nothing makes sense' about the signing makes no sense within itself. While he's here, lets hope for a few goals in not too many minutes. Edited January 14, 2014 by StefanAVFC 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted January 14, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted January 14, 2014 Houlston asked it earlier. If Holt is such a decent option as cover why doesn't an average championship team want him for this role? Also could we not recall bent back? Is that not an option? I guess re-calling Bent back means we have to pay his 60k a week wages or whatever, whereas I doubt Holt will cost half that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 to be fair Holt fell out of favour with the Wigan boss hence why hes not in the team.. maybe its not based on ability. Hes signing now.. we have to support the bloke...... what else can we do.. its our job as a fan of the club to support the players that put on our famous claret and blue shirt. He is probably excited as it will be the biggest club he will be at and the last thing he needs is to find out noone wants him here. Lets give him a chance.. thats all we can do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Meanwhile Hull look to sign Shane Long and Nikica Jelavic For their first team, so they can build with these players. Ours is a 4 month loan for back-up. There's no context to your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 to be fair Holt fell out of favour with the Wigan boss hence why hes not in the team.. maybe its not based on ability. Hes signing now.. we have to support the bloke...... what else can we do.. its our job as a fan of the club to support the players that put on our famous claret and blue shirt. He is probably excited as it will be the biggest club he will be at and the last thing he needs is to find out noone wants him here. Lets give him a chance.. thats all we can do. At 32 he gets the call from Villa ........what more motivation do you need #top-player-joins-villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Wonder which bit of the project this fits in with? The "Lambert hasn't got a ****ing clue what he's doing" bit of the project. It is to keep the club in the division (at low cost) until Lerner sells or has a change of heart. Holt is just a short term signing to replace Kozak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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