Nigel Posted January 31, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2014 Kinda hope we don't sign Hoolahan. Yes he might be a bit better than what we have, but if he comes here i fear he'll be our main ACM for the next 2,5 seasons and that will just be depressing. As i stands now we'll hopefully get enough points to stay up without him and starting next season with Hoolahan 32 as our playmaker... well i hope we won't. I don't think Lambert would sign Hoolahan and then put him on the bench half a season later and i doubt Lerner will shell our for another pricier ACM in the summer having sign Hoolahan now. If it's something like £1m and £15-20k/w then fine, but if it's closer to £2-3m and £25-30k/w i really don't want him here. This is my worry also. We need a lot better than Hoolahan to progress, and we certainly do not need him standing in the way of our young players. Young players need someone to emulate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son Of Wiz Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 The whole saga does make Norwich look so so smalltime. They won't sell a player; they don't play, who wants to go, who has around 12 months left on his contract to a club who wants him and he wants to go to....... Just because that club is Aston Villa and their manager is Paul Lambert No it doesn't Harry, in fact quite the opposite in my opinion, why should we bow down and give in when toys are thrown out of his pram? Mind you, I'm not sure I want to see him in a City shirt again now. He's burning a lot of bridges. Do you think Norwich would accept a £2m bid from Fulham for Hoolahan? I do. Norwich just don't want to sell to Villa. No, its just not Villa imo its anyone now, its got personal and thats sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Reacho Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Kinda hope we don't sign Hoolahan. Yes he might be a bit better than what we have, but if he comes here i fear he'll be our main ACM for the next 2,5 seasons and that will just be depressing. As i stands now we'll hopefully get enough points to stay up without him and starting next season with Hoolahan 32 as our playmaker... well i hope we won't. I don't think Lambert would sign Hoolahan and then put him on the bench half a season later and i doubt Lerner will shell our for another pricier ACM in the summer having sign Hoolahan now. If it's something like £1m and £15-20k/w then fine, but if it's closer to £2-3m and £25-30k/w i really don't want him here. This is my worry also. We need a lot better than Hoolahan to progress, and we certainly do not need him standing in the way of our young players. I think he's perfect in that regard - If he was 26 he'd be standing in the way of the likes of Grealish and Carruthers, but if anything signing him now means that group of players he's an experienced head and can step in and take the pressure of the young guys. Helps that they're all Irish too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 31, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2014 The whole saga does make Norwich look so so smalltime. They won't sell a player; they don't play, who wants to go, who has around 12 months left on his contract to a club who wants him and he wants to go to....... Just because that club is Aston Villa and their manager is Paul Lambert No it doesn't Harry, in fact quite the opposite in my opinion, why should we bow down and give in when toys are thrown out of his pram? Mind you, I'm not sure I want to see him in a City shirt again now. He's burning a lot of bridges. I don't think it makes you look small time. But I would question why Norwich are so insistent on him staying if everything we're hearing is true. If he was playing every week then I could understand. You wouldn't want to sell a key player and would be standing firm. But it doesn't seem like Wes has been an integral part of the Norwich team this season. So it is a bit puzzling as to why Norwich would sacrifice the 1-2m they'll get for him if they sell now just to not do business with us. They'll be giving up money just to have an unhappy player who they won't use and who they have to pay for the rest of the season. Like I said, I don't see it as small time, but I do find it a bit odd. Are relations really that bad between norwich and Lambert that they won't do any business with him, even if it's to the detriment of their own club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son Of Wiz Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 The whole saga does make Norwich look so so smalltime. They won't sell a player; they don't play, who wants to go, who has around 12 months left on his contract to a club who wants him and he wants to go to....... Just because that club is Aston Villa and their manager is Paul Lambert No it doesn't Harry, in fact quite the opposite in my opinion, why should we bow down and give in when toys are thrown out of his pram? Mind you, I'm not sure I want to see him in a City shirt again now. He's burning a lot of bridges. I don't think it makes you look small time. But I would question why Norwich are so insistent on him staying if everything we're hearing is true. If he was playing every week then I could understand. You wouldn't want to sell a key player and would be standing firm. But it doesn't seem like Wes has been an integral part of the Norwich team this season. So it is a bit puzzling as to why Norwich would sacrifice the 1-2m they'll get for him if they sell now just to not do business with us. They'll be giving up money just to have an unhappy player who they won't use and who they have to pay for the rest of the season. Like I said, I don't see it as small time, but I do find it a bit odd. Are relations really that bad between norwich and Lambert that they won't do any business with him, even if it's to the detriment of their own club? As I said Stevo, I think its just got personal between Wes and our club, and our CEO McNally won't back down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 The whole saga does make Norwich look so so smalltime. They won't sell a player; they don't play, who wants to go, who has around 12 months left on his contract to a club who wants him and he wants to go to....... Just because that club is Aston Villa and their manager is Paul Lambert No it doesn't Harry, in fact quite the opposite in my opinion, why should we bow down and give in when toys are thrown out of his pram? Mind you, I'm not sure I want to see him in a City shirt again now. He's burning a lot of bridges. I don't think it makes you look small time. But I would question why Norwich are so insistent on him staying if everything we're hearing is true. If he was playing every week then I could understand. You wouldn't want to sell a key player and would be standing firm. But it doesn't seem like Wes has been an integral part of the Norwich team this season. So it is a bit puzzling as to why Norwich would sacrifice the 1-2m they'll get for him if they sell now just to not do business with us. They'll be giving up money just to have an unhappy player who they won't use and who they have to pay for the rest of the season. Like I said, I don't see it as small time, but I do find it a bit odd. Are relations really that bad between norwich and Lambert that they won't do any business with him, even if it's to the detriment of their own club? As I said Stevo, I think its just got personal between Wes and our club, and our CEO McNally won't back down. But if somebody insulted you like that, you'd want them as far away as possible not keep them on board as revenge, surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Not much of a CEO then when there's millions of pounds at stake. Mind you, your manager isn't strong enough to make such a stand alone so I guess your CEO has to play the bad guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 As I said Stevo, I think its just got personal between Wes and our club, and our CEO McNally won't back down. the same McNally that wouldnt back down about Lambert not leaving, or Culverhouse and Karsa not leaving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponky Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Just might be enough for players to consider giving Norwich a wide berth if they think they won't get to move on when the time comes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Kinda hope we don't sign Hoolahan. Yes he might be a bit better than what we have, but if he comes here i fear he'll be our main ACM for the next 2,5 seasons and that will just be depressing. As i stands now we'll hopefully get enough points to stay up without him and starting next season with Hoolahan 32 as our playmaker... well i hope we won't. I don't think Lambert would sign Hoolahan and then put him on the bench half a season later and i doubt Lerner will shell our for another pricier ACM in the summer having sign Hoolahan now. If it's something like £1m and £15-20k/w then fine, but if it's closer to £2-3m and £25-30k/w i really don't want him here. This is my worry also. We need a lot better than Hoolahan to progress, and we certainly do not need him standing in the way of our young players. Young players need someone to emulate. Hoolahan is turning 32 has just over 50 top flight games and 7 caps for ireland, hopefully our youngsters aim higher than that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) Because he's a petulant child, Wiz - McNally, I mean. Edited January 31, 2014 by lexicon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 SSN claims he isn't going anywhere http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11677/9142739/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Lock it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 SSN claim a lot of things. It does not make it true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Kinda hope we don't sign Hoolahan. Yes he might be a bit better than what we have, but if he comes here i fear he'll be our main ACM for the next 2,5 seasons and that will just be depressing. As i stands now we'll hopefully get enough points to stay up without him and starting next season with Hoolahan 32 as our playmaker... well i hope we won't. I don't think Lambert would sign Hoolahan and then put him on the bench half a season later and i doubt Lerner will shell our for another pricier ACM in the summer having sign Hoolahan now. If it's something like £1m and £15-20k/w then fine, but if it's closer to £2-3m and £25-30k/w i really don't want him here. This is my worry also. We need a lot better than Hoolahan to progress, and we certainly do not need him standing in the way of our young players. Young players need someone to emulate. Hoolahan is turning 32 has just over 50 top flight games and 7 caps for ireland, hopefully our youngsters aim higher than that. Was about to say something similar. You got there before me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Reacho Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Kinda hope we don't sign Hoolahan. Yes he might be a bit better than what we have, but if he comes here i fear he'll be our main ACM for the next 2,5 seasons and that will just be depressing. As i stands now we'll hopefully get enough points to stay up without him and starting next season with Hoolahan 32 as our playmaker... well i hope we won't. I don't think Lambert would sign Hoolahan and then put him on the bench half a season later and i doubt Lerner will shell our for another pricier ACM in the summer having sign Hoolahan now. If it's something like £1m and £15-20k/w then fine, but if it's closer to £2-3m and £25-30k/w i really don't want him here. This is my worry also. We need a lot better than Hoolahan to progress, and we certainly do not need him standing in the way of our young players. Young players need someone to emulate. Hoolahan is turning 32 has just over 50 top flight games and 7 caps for ireland, hopefully our youngsters aim higher than that. Was certainly a late bloomer but the last five years of any potential Ireland career he may have had were wiped out by Trappatoni's insistence on playing the likes of Glenn Whelan, Paul Green, and Keith Andrews to the exclusion of anyone who could actually play football such as Darron Gibson, Andy Reid, and Wes. On the few occasions he did play he did well and even scored I think. He came straight into the side when MON and RK came in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Well done Lambert, even though we've not got the player, your actions have resulted in many Norwich fans no longer wanting the manager to play a player that many of them said was their most talented player! That's one way to weaken your rivals for the 2nd half of the season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 SSN claim a lot of things. It does not make it true. Nothing suggests he is coming here either. I think we are looking at other targets, atleast I hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postdeath Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Pete Colley confirming on SSN that the Hoolahan deal is dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Worst transfer saga, eveeeeeeeeeeer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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