P3te Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 There should be some rules in place whereby the higher up the league you finish, the less transfers you make unless you sell some of your first team members first... Like the draft system in the states where the worst placed teams get the first pick for the best players Wouldnt work though because its all geared towards separating the top teams from the others... Something like that would be a great equalizer, but ultimately it'd just end up with no good players moving to the league. They'd just go to another country that doesn't have those restrictions. The difference with football and American sports is that football is a global game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Lovren handed in a transfer request. Lovren to Spurs then. Liverpool was who I saw him linked to? Yeah looking like it, although I'd be surprised if Spurs aren't in for him as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Folski Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 There should be some rules in place whereby the higher up the league you finish, the less transfers you make unless you sell some of your first team members first... Like the draft system in the states where the worst placed teams get the first pick for the best players Wouldnt work though because its all geared towards separating the top teams from the others... Something like that would be a great equalizer, but ultimately it'd just end up with no good players moving to the league. They'd just go to another country that doesn't have those restrictions. The difference with football and American sports is that football is a global game Or just remove transfer fees entirely players are held to their contracts and can only be traded for other players, it may make things difficult if you want to buy someone but at the same time it's likely to mean much shorter contracts as players are going to want to be available as often as possible. It think it would remove a lot of this, players handing in transfer requests etc. Say if Lovern signed there last year, his contract was up with Lyon (and these rules applied) he'd have probably have taken a one year deal or a two year deal, he would have been think (I assume) that he could go there and get relegated and wouldn't want to stick around for another year in such a scenario or that he could have a great season and get an offer from a bigger club, if the season was not a success he could probably go back to Lyon with his tail between his legs. It completely removes player power while they are under contract but at the same time gives them the power to maximize their earnings potential at the end of their contract. It would also mean clubs like us could actually grow without the risk of losing players and one would imagine the league would be more competitive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Villain Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 There should be some rules in place whereby the higher up the league you finish, the less transfers you make unless you sell some of your first team members first... Like the draft system in the states where the worst placed teams get the first pick for the best players Wouldnt work though because its all geared towards separating the top teams from the others... Something like that would be a great equalizer, but ultimately it'd just end up with no good players moving to the league. They'd just go to another country that doesn't have those restrictions. The difference with football and American sports is that football is a global game Or just remove transfer fees entirely players are held to their contracts and can only be traded for other players, it may make things difficult if you want to buy someone but at the same time it's likely to mean much shorter contracts as players are going to want to be available as often as possible. It think it would remove a lot of this, players handing in transfer requests etc. Say if Lovern signed there last year, his contract was up with Lyon (and these rules applied) he'd have probably have taken a one year deal or a two year deal, he would have been think (I assume) that he could go there and get relegated and wouldn't want to stick around for another year in such a scenario or that he could have a great season and get an offer from a bigger club, if the season was not a success he could probably go back to Lyon with his tail between his legs. It completely removes player power while they are under contract but at the same time gives them the power to maximize their earnings potential at the end of their contract. It would also mean clubs like us could actually grow without the risk of losing players and one would imagine the league would be more competitive. Be interesting to see how the game evolves across the pond where its developing at quite a pace. The whole 'marquee' player thing makes their whole thing a bit more exciting and like I said, the draft system keeps everyone on an even keel and keeps the regular youth talent coming through. Wouldn't at all be surprised to see their national team challenge and become vastly more competitive in the next couple of decades... All it takes is a 'Golden generation' and with a country the size of USA, thats a massive pool of potential talent to be able to get your players from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Looks like they'll be getting Ronald Koeman as their new manager according to the BBC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 (edited) There should be some rules in place whereby the higher up the league you finish, the less transfers you make unless you sell some of your first team members first... Like the draft system in the states where the worst placed teams get the first pick for the best players Wouldnt work though because its all geared towards separating the top teams from the others... Something like that would be a great equalizer, but ultimately it'd just end up with no good players moving to the league. They'd just go to another country that doesn't have those restrictions. The difference with football and American sports is that football is a global game Or just remove transfer fees entirely players are held to their contracts and can only be traded for other players, it may make things difficult if you want to buy someone but at the same time it's likely to mean much shorter contracts as players are going to want to be available as often as possible. It think it would remove a lot of this, players handing in transfer requests etc. Say if Lovern signed there last year, his contract was up with Lyon (and these rules applied) he'd have probably have taken a one year deal or a two year deal, he would have been think (I assume) that he could go there and get relegated and wouldn't want to stick around for another year in such a scenario or that he could have a great season and get an offer from a bigger club, if the season was not a success he could probably go back to Lyon with his tail between his legs. It completely removes player power while they are under contract but at the same time gives them the power to maximize their earnings potential at the end of their contract. It would also mean clubs like us could actually grow without the risk of losing players and one would imagine the league would be more competitive. Isn't that roughly how baseball works in the US? The players end up signing astronomical contracts and the richest teams still pull all the best players because they can offer the best wages. The only difference is the smaller clubs wouldn't get any fee when the bigger club poaches their player at the end of the shorter contract. Edited June 16, 2014 by LondonLax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Looks like they'll be getting Ronald Koeman as their new manager according to the BBC. Done deal. Not a bad choice I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted June 16, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted June 16, 2014 (edited) MLB is a lot more competitive, than any of the top 5-6 European leagues. Part of that is the luxury tax: clubs that spend over a certain threshold in wages end up paying up to 100% of the amount over that into a pool shared between the other clubs. You also tend to see contracts of 5-6 years being handed out to young players (though young in baseball terms is under 25). Edited June 16, 2014 by leviramsey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 If a luxury tax was introduced in the UEFA zone then it would somehow work that clubs outside the Champions League would pay a levy of 15% of their income for the honour of being able to share a pitch with clubs in the Champions League in domestic fixtures. That money would then be equally divided between Real Madrid, Barcelona, Manchester United and Chelsea. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Calum Chambers being strongly linked with Arsenal tonight....these guys are losing a shed load of key players. I don't care how much they'll have to spend, difficult to see them in the top 10 next season. Can't help thinking it's another young english player who won't be playing much, Wenger is hardly going to bench Debechy and at 28 he's still got quite a few years left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Fair play to Southampton fans. Had a few on talk sport earlier, despite all the sales they were still optimistic. They know that last season was their best and are happy with the level they are at. Knowing that they are a feeder club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avfc96 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Lambert, Lallana, Shaw have all gone. Chambers, Lovren, Rodriguez and Scheinderlin all rumoured to be on their way out with Lovren and Chambers almost certainties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted July 25, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted July 25, 2014 I feel sorry for them really. I know they have a boat load of cash but they built a good team, developed youth.... and the first decent season they have they get picked apart. It's sad that football is like that really. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heid3ster Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Lambert, Lallana, Shaw have all gone. Chambers, Lovren, Rodriguez and Scheinderlin all rumoured to be on their way out with Lovren and Chambers almost certainties. Not to mention their manager. With Sir Tackle-Goals injured, they are looking at at least 6 changes to their starting XI at the start of the season. So far they've brought in Tadic and Pelle, both talented players but both untried entities in the Premier League. They might hit the ground running or they might be this season's Osvaldo and Ramirez. I think at the very least, it's safe to assume they'll be struggling to settle in together for the first few months. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Still, having £90m or so is a decent second prize. It's amazing what clubs are willing to spend on players with one or two good seasons in the Prem. I have a feeling that Southampton will end up with the better value for money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 £16m for chambers apparently, crazy money with how little he has played. Southampton have a lot of money but need to invest wisely on a lot of players. What's Koeman like in the transfer market? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Still, having £90m or so is a decent second prize. It's amazing what clubs are willing to spend on players with one or two good seasons in the Prem. I have a feeling that Southampton will end up with the better value for money. Yet Spurs wanted to pay 15-20m for Benteke! Tight bastards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicho Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Ward-Prowse to be gone within a year aswell. Southampton have a good recent history of selling and just bringing more through, Bale, Walcott and the Ox as examples, all be it the club was a t a different level then. Great situation to be in if they can just produce some more, but we as fans get attached to players, hard to see how their fans can be "happy" with this opportunist ripping apart. I genuinely believe had the team stayed together and if the eye for talented foreigners continued they would have been a problem for some of the bigger teams in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I've never seen a team disassembled quite like this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I've never seen a team disassembled quite like this. When the transfer window shuts all that will be left of Southampton is Arnold Schwarzenegger, caked in mud. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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