Rob182 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 1 hour ago, El Zen said: People don’t like him because he keeps playing the victim and moaning about fans, taking it all far too personal. He’s been stealing a living as a manager, getting far more chances and being backed far more than his results merit. Yet he keeps making comments like that. It’s pathetic and petty. Draw and lose a load of games, with a squad capable of finishing top…. Then beats Rotherham “That’ll shut them up” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 1 hour ago, El Zen said: People don’t like him because he keeps playing the victim and moaning about fans, taking it all far too personal. He’s been stealing a living as a manager, getting far more chances and being backed far more than his results merit. Yet he keeps making comments like that. It’s pathetic and petty. People don’t like him because he responds to the abuse he gets from fans. What a world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post El Zen Posted October 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2021 (edited) 27 minutes ago, bobzy said: People don’t like him because he responds to the abuse he gets from fans. What a world No, it’s the narrative he’s trying to spin about himself as some kind of victim who never gets a fair chance at success, who is only criticised for some other reason than his actual ability as a manager, it’s how he’s always out to ‘shut a few people up’. He never really accepts any criticism, he always takes it personally. A lot of fans from a lot of clubs have suffered through some appalling football with Bruce as manager. But the fans’ criticism is somehow never legitimate, always personal. He’s picking these fights. Constantly. I’m sick of this self-pitying multi-millionaire insulting the collective intelligence of fans at every club he turns up. He has a reputation for being ‘nice’ but he comes across as a snide, petty prick. That’s why people don’t like him. That and his objectively awful brand of football. Edited October 20, 2021 by El Zen 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 3 hours ago, sne said: Incredible 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted October 20, 2021 Moderator Share Posted October 20, 2021 11 minutes ago, El Zen said: He has a reputation for being ‘nice’ but he comes across as a snide, petty prick. That’s why people don’t like him. That and his objectively awful brand of football. I believe he is a nice person. But, you’re right, his incredibly thin skin means he seems unable to accept any views on his football style or performances are not personal attacks, then he responds and it makes the divide worse, his media and football mates say how nice he is and fans point out how crap the results and football are…and the cycle continues. For his own health and well-being he should have packed it in when he left Sunderland. Yesterday’s man in football management terms. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talldarkandransome Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Mutual consent with an £8m pay off Hard life that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Talldarkandransome said: Mutual consent with an £8m pay off Hard life that Break out the kebabs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 16 hours ago, sne said: When you legitimately can't tell if it's The Onion or real 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 14 hours ago, desensitized43 said: Definitely agree dyche could be the short term option. He’d suit the players they have right now to get them out of it. Whether he’d want to risk his career on such a short term thinking is the question. im not sure what the fans think should come into it at all. These are the people who’ve just attended games in mock Saudi clothes fashioned from bed sheets and tea towels after all! I am sure a 5m a year and a 10m bonus for keeping them in the PL would help him to risk his career. Even after a disaster at Newcastle I suspect there would be newly promoted PL sides that would jump at the chance to get Dyche in to try and stay up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitized43 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, Peter Griffin said: I am sure a 5m a year and a 10m bonus for keeping them in the PL would help him to risk his career. Even after a disaster at Newcastle I suspect there would be newly promoted PL sides that would jump at the chance to get Dyche in to try and stay up It wouldn't hurt but (and you can call me an idealist!) I'm not convinced that money will be the main/only factor in a decision like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 28 minutes ago, desensitized43 said: It wouldn't hurt but (and you can call me an idealist!) I'm not convinced that money will be the main/only factor in a decision like that. I agree, but I think the situation that Newcastle are in means they are going to have to 'buy' a new manager. No big time manager would want the job now so to attract a big name they will have to give a huge salary and promise big transfer funds. If it is a short term manager e.g. Dyche, he and his agent will know that it is a short term appointment and at most he would have the rest of this season and next season. So he will want a very big salary and a lengthy salary to ensure his pay off is worth taking the job. Toon job will be one of the hardest in football to get the right person in. If they were in midtable with a half decent squad they could attract nearly anyone but they are in a real mess 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Their fixtures in December are grim - games against Leicester, Citeh, United, Liverpool and Everton and Burnley. They could be in the relegation places still come December Really struggling to see where they might get points beyond games against Palace and Norwich in the weeks ahead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 15 minutes ago, The_Steve said: Their fixtures in December are grim - games against Leicester, Citeh, United, Liverpool and Everton and Burnley. They could be in the relegation places still come December Really struggling to see where they might get points beyond games against Palace and Norwich in the weeks ahead Palace will smash em. Viera has got them playing decent stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted October 21, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) 42 minutes ago, The_Steve said: Their fixtures in December are grim - games against Leicester, Citeh, United, Liverpool and Everton and Burnley. They could be in the relegation places still come December Really struggling to see where they might get points beyond games against Palace and Norwich in the weeks ahead And the deeper in the shit they are come January, the harder the sell will be to potential signings. I would say to a new manager as well but no doubt they'll have one in soon regardless. Edited October 21, 2021 by fightoffyour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Personally I think they'll be fine. They will be snapping up older experienced players with little sell on value, that other clubs won't go for purely because they make little business sense - but they will be decent players and ready made for the task of avoiding relegation. In fairness 3 players of this sort, Lingard, Tarowski, Sterling even, alongside what they've got already - will be enough to stay up comfortably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 24 minutes ago, Jareth said: Personally I think they'll be fine. They will be snapping up older experienced players with little sell on value, that other clubs won't go for purely because they make little business sense - but they will be decent players and ready made for the task of avoiding relegation. You make a good point. Oh how I wish Villa would have signed players like Micah Richards, Lescott or Sinclair back in 2015! Maybe the history books would have been different. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 26 minutes ago, Jareth said: Personally I think they'll be fine. They will be snapping up older experienced players with little sell on value, that other clubs won't go for purely because they make little business sense - but they will be decent players and ready made for the task of avoiding relegation. In fairness 3 players of this sort, Lingard, Tarowski, Sterling even, alongside what they've got already - will be enough to stay up comfortably. Depends on the attitude. Can easily sit back on a 300k a week 5 year deal in the Championship QPR did similar with SWP, Barton, Zamora etc and went flying down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Sterling wouldn’t risk it - he’s more likely to end up a club like Everton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 39 minutes ago, Mic09 said: You make a good point. Oh how I wish Villa would have signed players like Micah Richards, Lescott or Sinclair back in 2015! Maybe the history books would have been different. If you make a list of every player that will be up for sale in Jan, then buy the top 5 players on that list - then you'll be doing what NUFC will be doing. Not sure the top 5 of said list in 2015 contained the aforementioned players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 12 minutes ago, Jareth said: If you make a list of every player that will be up for sale in Jan, then buy the top 5 players on that list - then you'll be doing what NUFC will be doing. Not sure the top 5 of said list in 2015 contained the aforementioned players. They were top 5 in a list just not top players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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