Dr_Pangloss Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Agreed, again.Unfortunately, Joe Public would see a football journalist and say "who the **** is this guy? He's never played football OR been on Strictly Come Dancing!"I think ex players is catering to the masses.You find, more broadly, in our types of societies, that there's a thing such as the 'myth of talent'. Since someone was great in one domain (footballer), they will be great in another (punditry or football administrator). It just doesn't always follow and I'd say that a great pundit who was a former player is an exception to the rule. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted November 9, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted November 9, 2015 That MoTD extra show on Sunday afternoon that CED mentions is quite good and it does benefit from having a mixture of former players and writers. My only gripe with that show is that because it's also on Radio 5live, they don't show any highlights. So they can discuss at length an incident that may have occurred on the Saturday but because listeners can't see it they've decided to level the playing field and not show it at all. They could replay an incident or a goal and talk over it so listeners don't have to listen to the commentary. Ruins an otherwise decent show.That's my "points of view" rant over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 9, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted November 9, 2015 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/347657791:35"Classic FA Cup Scenes"Looks like a return to the dark ages to me. Horrifying stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/347657791:35"Classic FA Cup Scenes"Looks like a return to the dark ages to me. Horrifying stuff.Disgusting, those kids could be seriously hurt with all those hooligans on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 I see Dwight Yorke this morning is blaming the Villa board for "Villa decline", funny that, he didn't mention this when he put his name forward for the job 2 weeks ago. Wonder what has changed since those two weeks hmm.. Just like Stan Collymore they all have their own agendas. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Agreed, again.Unfortunately, Joe Public would see a football journalist and say "who the **** is this guy? He's never played football OR been on Strictly Come Dancing!"I think ex players is catering to the masses.Would they? Even if they did, just as everyone absolutely hated the idea of Gary Neville the pundit, they would have to come round eventually... Including Liverpool fans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Agreed, again.Unfortunately, Joe Public would see a football journalist and say "who the **** is this guy? He's never played football OR been on Strictly Come Dancing!"I think ex players is catering to the masses. Would they? Even if they did, just as everyone absolutely hated the idea of Gary Neville the pundit, they would have to come round eventually... Including Liverpool fans.This is totally correct, but not enough broadcasters are willing to give it a go.Sky, as usual, are the leaders in this and found something special in Neville.Others are just taking time to catch up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 BBC did their usual trick of Gary Neville being good...let's try Phil...soccer Saturday is good...let's try it with Garth crooks...They just don't seem to get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Isn't the problem simply that by and large, footballers are thick? I don't know how many of them even bother with media training before becoming pundits, and producers seem to just want big names to sit on their sofa. I quite like on BT Sport on Champions League nights they have a Soccer Saturday style programme with James Richardson and some European journalists talking through all the goals and incidents, with Howard Webb talking about the refereeing decisions logically and fairly. In fact I think BT Sport does a very good job on the whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Garth crooks... I can't stand that idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 12, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted November 12, 2015 Agreed, again.Unfortunately, Joe Public would see a football journalist and say "who the **** is this guy? He's never played football OR been on Strictly Come Dancing!"I think ex players is catering to the masses. Would they? Even if they did, just as everyone absolutely hated the idea of Gary Neville the pundit, they would have to come round eventually... Including Liverpool fans.Yep I agree.But I think people like the BBC would be too afraid of the "er ma gerd I've never heard of Jonathan Wilson before!!!!!"I would absolutely love the change to be made though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Garth crooks... I can't stand that idiotPuts Koscielny in his team of the week every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisVillan Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 If BT Sport has demonstrated one thing, it's that the "get more journos" approach - something I was in favour of - just results in some insufferably boring bastards getting on the telly every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Linekar gets worse... Inter jerk g Vardy, he us obviously fishing for compliments about himself... "It's been years since Leicester had a top class finisher (smug smile)"... Vardy fair play ignores it and says I just keep working hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 34 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: Linekar gets worse... Inter jerk g Vardy, he us obviously fishing for compliments about himself... "It's been years since Leicester had a top class finisher (smug smile)"... Vardy fair play ignores it and says I just keep working hard That was the single most pointless interview in the history of all media, ever. Vardy said absolutely nothing except platitudes. Complete waste of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 (edited) I'm disappointed but not surprised at how the media seem to be completely ignoring confidence when they talk about our shameful season. Obviously there are many factors at play but I don't think I've ever heard confidence mentioned once when that clearly is a big issue for us. Presumably they don't mention confidence because that would mean tacitly admitting that Sherwood is partially to blame for our position. Edited November 22, 2015 by Mantis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Whoever the fella was commentating on the Villa/Everton game should be sacked. Twice he mentioned how Randolph had opened his wallet this Summer for a considerable sum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Most American pundits are annoying and often just wrong, but Kyle Martino on NBCSN is neither, he's quite good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 So no more Gary Neville on Sky. Big loss. I think Danny Higginbotham would be good on MNF, always been impressed with him talks a lot of sense and can see him working with Carragher well. Chances are they will just use Henry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I doubt Higginbotham has a chance of getting the job as he not a big name or played for a big club for a long time. Im sure they will bring in an ex-Liverpool player as not enough of them on tv at moment 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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