TRO Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Few myths flying about on here. Who criticized Westwood because he was cheap? Who claimed Westwood was the DM and Delph the AM? Who said Westwood was not technically acceptable? Noone...those who don't buy into the myth that Westwood is a good passer and say he is slow, weak and positionally poor, are just voicing an opinion.We have struggled with Delph and Westwood as the midfield partnership for the last 2 seasons, and you could argue that long term both need replacing, indeed the pathetic stats of 6 goals and 4 assisits probably indicates so, but whereas i rate Delph i don't go around spouting such nonsense as "excellant passer", makes the "team tick", "underatted"......no hes not, hes average, and that is our problem, too many average players. I believe by Jan the midfield will be Delph, Sanchez, and a n other.....but i would be surprised , if we spend any money, if it is Westwood, and yes disappointed, as it means we haven't moved on......my opinion. I think we as supporters do sit on eggs like a hen, when it comes to average players.....we are always waiting for them to improve......and in some cases never happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffy Biro Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Hopefully Sanchez allows him to do what he's good at, hes been a passenger in far to many games since he joined tbf although he's easily the most technically gifted midfielder we have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysAVFC Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 This Westwood debate is best waiting a few months as his role in the side is going to change or develop if he is to remain in the first XI. Where his limitations are either going to be highlighted or he's going to progress further. Talk of England is the sad predicament of the national team and the lack of English central midfielders currently. Hopefully by the end of the season Westwood will have thoroughly deserved to be talked about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 26, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted August 26, 2014 I've never seen so much effort put into putting down one of our own players as I have in this thread over the past couple of seasons 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 I beg to differ. IF he played for WBA, Stoke or Swansea, I am pretty sure I wouldn't be able to even name him if I saw his picture. On the pitch he is pretty invisible, mostly because of his role and because we seldom keep the ball in play. I like Westwood, he seems like a decent guy and he has a certain calmness to his play. However, he doesn't stand out and I don't think he has taken huge steps towards being a very good player in the future. If he was 20 years old like Ross Barkley he would have been quite the talent, but he is already 24 and I'm afraid I don't see the huge potential in him. He will always be a tidy player, picking up the ball and delivering it to the next guy going forward, but he is one in a million and can easily be replaced. Hope I'm wrong though. This is my view also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 (edited) I beg to differ. IF he played for WBA, Stoke or Swansea, I am pretty sure I wouldn't be able to even name him if I saw his picture. On the pitch he is pretty invisible, mostly because of his role and because we seldom keep the ball in play. I like Westwood, he seems like a decent guy and he has a certain calmness to his play. However, he doesn't stand out and I don't think he has taken huge steps towards being a very good player in the future. If he was 20 years old like Ross Barkley he would have been quite the talent, but he is already 24 and I'm afraid I don't see the huge potential in him. He will always be a tidy player, picking up the ball and delivering it to the next guy going forward, but he is one in a million and can easily be replaced. Hope I'm wrong though. This is my view also. You are. You both are. Edited August 26, 2014 by villan_007 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Why does he need to be as good as Ross Barkley? He's one of the best talents England has produced in over a decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 You are. You both are. Great contribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 (edited) Hopefully Sanchez allows him to do what he's good at, hes been a passenger in far to many games since he joined tbf although he's easily the most technically gifted midfielder we have Thats exactly how I see it....he is not built for the DM role imo....I still think he is a bit lightweight, but having the insurance of a player like Sanchez could be the thing that sparks him in to being effective....as he does have some deft little touches that can open teams up....he may have had too much responsibility....it will be interesting moving forward. Edited August 26, 2014 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 I don't think he's good enough, unfortunately. Now that the defence has had a much needed overhaul, the centre of midfield needs to be sorted, and I imagine that will lead to Westwood losing his place to Sanchez. Westwood and Delph, for all that the former is neat and tidy, and for all the energy of the latter, don't deliver enough quality in my opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 I don't think he's good enough, unfortunately. Now that the defence has had a much needed overhaul, the centre of midfield needs to be sorted, and I imagine that will lead to Westwood losing his place to Sanchez. Westwood and Delph, for all that the former is neat and tidy, and for all the energy of the latter, don't deliver enough quality in my opinion. I was just sitting on my eggs.lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 I'm sure all the people criticising Westwood on here would probably be slating Lambert for not signing players like him if he played for Swansea or someone. The criticism of him on here is getting beyond ridiculous now. Honestly not worth debating with some people. I beg to differ. IF he played for WBA, Stoke or Swansea, I am pretty sure I wouldn't be able to even name him if I saw his picture. On the pitch he is pretty invisible, mostly because of his role and because we seldom keep the ball in play. I like Westwood, he seems like a decent guy and he has a certain calmness to his play. However, he doesn't stand out and I don't think he has taken huge steps towards being a very good player in the future. If he was 20 years old like Ross Barkley he would have been quite the talent, but he is already 24 and I'm afraid I don't see the huge potential in him. He will always be a tidy player, picking up the ball and delivering it to the next guy going forward, but he is one in a million and can easily be replaced. Hope I'm wrong though. If only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I don't think he's good enough, unfortunately. Now that the defence has had a much needed overhaul, the centre of midfield needs to be sorted, and I imagine that will lead to Westwood losing his place to Sanchez. Westwood and Delph, for all that the former is neat and tidy, and for all the energy of the latter, don't deliver enough quality in my opinion. I think that there's a debate to be had about Westwood, but if you can't see what Delph brings for a club like ours I do despair. He's clearly one of our best players and most consistent performers. Hopefully Sanchez is the real deal, and we can keep Cole fit, though I'm not optimistic about the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonVillian Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Westwood is a good player, not suited to being the anchor role though. He works well in a midfield 3, however as a 2 he needs a bit more to his game pace/power etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulver Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Why does he need to be as good as Ross Barkley? He's one of the best talents England has produced in over a decade. and also a totally different type of player might as well ask why Delph isn't as good as Barkley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonVillian Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Barkley had a good 1/2 season - not overly convinced how good he is anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 (edited) To sum this whole debate up....if he was at another club we'd moan as to why we weren't in for him. Edited August 27, 2014 by villan_007 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 (edited) I wouldn't say Westwood goes in my "good" player category, he fits more into my "not s**t" category or "fine" Edited August 27, 2014 by villalad21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Seems to me that between him, Sanchez and Delph we've got all bases covered in a midfield three. I'm a bit worried about missing any of them and could do with a bit of back-up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 To sum this whole debate up....if he was at another club we'd moan as to why we weren't in for him. Then moan when we signed him, then moaned when we played him, then moaned when we sold him., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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