Gabby Agbonlahor

[PieFacE]

If its a loan then he can't play can he? Although i'm not sure if they changed that rule...

I think it's a clause the club can put in the loan agreement if they choose too. I'm sure they would. 

Edited August 14, 2016 by PieFacE

[kurtsimonw]

On 8/13/2016 at 21:46, thunderball said:

You should assess a striker by his stats and Gabbys are poor

I'll do the unthinkable and defend him a bit here. I agree that a striker should be judged by the goals he scores. But surely that should only be a consideration when a player is actually played as a striker?

In 2006-07 he spent half the season wide, then half up front and scored 9 in 38. It's not setting the World on fire, but its a very impressive first full season from someone who was 20 years old. From 2007-2010 he played almost exclusively as a striker and scored 35 in 109 - about 1 in 3, which is a decent return.

The following season under Houllier, again he was back out on the wing for most of the season and his goal return dipped and he all round had a bad season. 2011-2015 he scored 24 in 125 playing on the wing, with 20 assists. So he contributed a goal or an assist every 2.5 games. It's not an awful return for a player who simply is not a winger.

I think his stats as a striker are far from poor. He's not an elite striker by any means, but his record as a striker for Villa is similar to Carew.

Unfortunately for him, he'll mostly be remembered for last season where he well and truly took the piss. He's still our best goal scorer in the Premier League era, which is obviously partly down to how many games he's played - but you don't get given goals for how many games you play and still have to put the ball in the net.

[JAMAICAN-VILLAN]

This is a groundhog day argument, I have posted the stats more than once but the factd don't matter lol. It's almost as ridiculous ase continually responding but I can't help it because some of the nonsense i read truly baffles me.

Edited August 15, 2016 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN

[JAMAICAN-VILLAN]

On 13/08/2016 at 23:46, thunderball said:

 

You should assess a striker by his stats and Gabbys are poor, he hasn't scored enough and hasn't assisted and contributed anywhere near enough to be on a 5 year £57k/wk salary. Club captain, give me a break, he owes the club, he can repay us by leaving.

Did u even bother looking at the stats vs position played before making this statement? All you have to do is go a couple pages back through the thread, almost 50 percent of games played as a winger, in a team which were pretty much ALL shite in latter years. He got the deal because he showed enough to make it seem like he would become a valuable star and contributor. Was unplayable at times, called up for England, linked to Arsenal, critically acclaimed and actually feared by many a team and manager. We can also do the whole highlights reel, vital goals scored and being the top scorer thing all over but pointless. I'll try to make this my last comment on this as i feel like i'm going cenile. Lol

Edited August 15, 2016 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN

[7392craig]

1 hour ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said:

Did u even bother looking at the stats vs position played before making this statement? All you have to do is a go a couple pages back through the thread, almost 50 percent of gamrs played as a winger, in a team which were pretty much ALL shite in latter years. He got the deal because he showed enough to make it seem like he would become a valuable star and contibutor. Was unplayable at times, called up for England, linked to Arsenal, critically acclaimed and actually feared by many a team and manager. We can also fo the whole highlights reel, vital goals scored and being the top scorer thing all over but pointless. I'll try to make this my last comment on this as i feel like i'm going cenile. Lol

I actually remember once upon a time John Terry saying he was the striker he hated playing against the most. As a winger he's always been useless, as a striker (other than last season) he was great, and then when he was poor he wasn't half as bad as some people made him out to be.

[mwj]

3 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said:

Did u even bother looking at the stats vs position played before making this statement? All you have to do is go a couple pages back through the thread, almost 50 percent of games played as a winger, in a team which were pretty much ALL shite in latter years. He got the deal because he showed enough to make it seem like he would become a valuable star and contributor. Was unplayable at times, called up for England, linked to Arsenal, critically acclaimed and actually feared by many a team and manager. We can also do the whole highlights reel, vital goals scored and being the top scorer thing all over but pointless. I'll try to make this my last comment on this as i feel like i'm going cenile. Lol

I couldn't care less about his stats

 

He's a word removed

[JAMAICAN-VILLAN]

1 hour ago, mwj said:

I couldn't care less about his stats

 

He's a word removed

Oh ok. So i'm assuming you already know why your opinion means F A then.  

[mwj]

1 hour ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said:

Oh ok. So i'm assuming you already know why your opinion means F A then.  

Unfortunately for you mate, as a fellow fan on an internet forum, my opinion has about equal weight as yours.

I just happen to think how players carry themselves as 30yr old grown men is as equally important as what they produce on the pitch.

[Grasshopper]

The really annoying thing for me is Gabby's selfishness.

He took the piss majorly whilst taking no responsibility for his position as captain/longest serving player/top scorer.

Now it is clear to him that NO club wants to buy him (or have we had a bid for him yet?) So now he decides to get his act together and hope all is forgiven and he can continue his career here at 60k pw for the next 3 (4?) seasons.

Who the F*** does he think he is?

who the F*** does he think he's fooling?

Man up ffs. GTFO, go prove to some other Club manager team fans that you're worthy of a contract.

But no, Gabby's hanging on like a bad smell, and it's ALL his own doing.

The reality of it is. If he didnt have all his Millions already at the bank and couldnt afford his lavish life, how would he have conducted himself ? Certainly not like last season (in isolation) I fear

Selfish, useless C-Unit.

IMHO

[Dave J]

15 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said:

Did u even bother looking at the stats vs position played before making this statement? All you have to do is go a couple pages back through the thread, almost 50 percent of games played as a winger, in a team which were pretty much ALL shite in latter years. He got the deal because he showed enough to make it seem like he would become a valuable star and contributor. Was unplayable at times, called up for England, linked to Arsenal, critically acclaimed and actually feared by many a team and manager. We can also do the whole highlights reel, vital goals scored and being the top scorer thing all over but pointless. I'll try to make this my last comment on this as i feel like i'm going cenile. Lol

Yes England may have called him but they took about as long as it took me to realise he can't play. You say unplayable- when? He might have been uncatchable over a period of time- unplayable never in my book

[Straggler]

He is unplayable this year.

I may have got the context slightly wrong though.

[TheStagMan]

So, nobody wanting to buy him yet?  Come on Hull.......!

[BOF]

I can't believe he's only 29.

Although he's 30 in October which is a bit like selling a car and having a few months left on its MOT.  Sell now !

[villa89]

On ‎13‎/‎08‎/‎2016 at 21:46, thunderball said:

You should assess a striker by his stats

No you shouldn't. You can't properly assess any footballer by their stats. You have to watch them play, or in Gabby's case try to. Unfortunately I have seen Gabby play on numerous occassions and, despite not knowing a single gabby related statistic, I can confirm that he is, in fact, shite. If he gets himself together and tries a bit he *could* do a job for a championship club. It's a big 'if' though. 

[rodders0223]

There was a video on instagram of him doing the 100m sprint not long back. Only 29 and his speed has well and truly gone. His stride looked heavy and he made it lòok such hard work. He really hasn't looked after himself over the years.

[LakotaDakota]

Just for those that seem to be keen on giving him yet another chance...

Don't care if he's on the wing or even in goal, 6 touches in a half (8 in total but 2 were kick offs) shows how little he cared last year.

It is only since we have had a new owner that he has realised that someone is finally going to kick him out of the door that he has started to do something about getting himself in some sort of shape that isn't round

[Guest av1]

When i think of Gabby, i think of a very limited footballer who's used his few assets well, who was fortunate enough to play under a Manager who's counter attacking tactics played perfectly to his few strengths, and who more than anything worked hard.

I don't think many of us have ever viewed him as anything other than average, but he's a local lad who ran his socks off, always tracked back back and chipped in with around 10 goals a year, a couple of which important. So whilst i never really rated the bloke, i think if things had continued in the same manor, i might have been inclined to remember the good times rather than the bad. 

Sadly things didn't continue in the same manor, and the only person to blame for that is Gabby himself. He no longer seems to work hard so his only asset (his speed) is rendered pretty much useless. After being named Club Captain he had another opportunity to help the club, one of leadership, he cocked that up as well when we needed it most.

So now Gabby you won't be remembered for the good times, you'll only be remembered for being a word removed and wasting a opportunity to be remembered. No one's fault other than your own.  

[Zatman]

4 hours ago, BOF said:

I can't believe he's only 29.

Although he's 30 in October which is a bit like selling a car and having a few months left on its MOT.  Sell now !

made his debut in 2006 I think just before Lerner decline. amazingly his time at Villa is probably similar path to Lerner, positive start, couple of signs of renaissance when we looked decent in very short spells under Lambert and Sherwood and then total crash

[mwj]

5 hours ago, villa89 said:

No you shouldn't. You can't properly assess any footballer by their stats. You have to watch them play, or in Gabby's case try to. Unfortunately I have seen Gabby play on numerous occassions and, despite not knowing a single gabby related statistic, I can confirm that he is, in fact, shite. If he gets himself together and tries a bit he *could* do a job for a championship club. It's a big 'if' though. 

Well technically you can these days, there are hundreds of measurements taken by clubs each day at training and during games.

Unfortunately in gabby's case, he couldn't fit into the GPS tracking vest so we'll have to go off his scoring record for the past 5 years and it is shit. 

(Although I think he holds the club record for most nitrous poppers in one night)

[Wainy316]

38 minutes ago, Zatman said:

made his debut in 2006 I think just before Lerner decline. amazingly his time at Villa is probably similar path to Lerner, positive start, couple of signs of renaissance when we looked decent in very short spells under Lambert and Sherwood and then total crash

 

Doug Ellis still owned us when Gabby debuted.