villan501 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Last dregs of the relegation team and poisonous Randy Lerner era. A new start. Yes mate agree. Aston villa had the scenario when Jack's dodgy shins caused him to miss a fair few games we struggled but knew he would be back at some point. Jack leaving results in zero return we go our way forward imo the lifelong fan jack said he is has got off the wrong stop along this journey but if he is happy I know us villa fans will also once dust settles Change is not liked in life I hate it lol but I know it seems like a disaster but this is simply a blip we will regroup rebuild and all pull together because those of us supporting ❤ this club and always will. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 21 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Guy wants CL football. That is the bottom line. Any every other player NOT at a top 4 club doesn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoVillan1983 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Just now, TheAuthority said: Wow - very similar life to me. Born in Stourbridge, grew up Villa, 4 years in Manc land, 6 in London then moved to the US. Haha. Cannock for me! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post peteyp Posted August 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 4, 2021 I haven't posted on here for a while but felt like a rant and need to let it out somehow... Firstly, I'm 36 years old and I can't be arsed to hold a lifetime grudge against Jack. I won't boo him. On a human level I can appreciate how tempting a move to City may be. I appreciate the role he played in helping to get us promoted and stay up. He's undoubtedly one of the most talented players I've seen in a Villa shirt - a generational talent. On the other hand, f*ck him. One of the things that bothers me most about the general narrative in the media and online right now is the idea that he was doing us a favour by staying this long; by signing a contract last year he was somehow throwing us a bone to ensure we got a big fat paycheque this year. Firstly, Spurs are the only club who have come in for him before now and they thought so little of him as to bid £5 m and a part ex-change deal. Since then, we've given him the captaincy, built a team around him and played our part in developing him at pace, year on year, into one of the best midfielders in Europe. He's hardly been stagnating the last few years - he has constantly improved and been able to play pretty much however he wanted to. If he had gone to Spurs, I highly doubt he would be the player he is now, nor would he be earning 250K plus a week with the reigning PL champs. Him being at villa the last few years has been mutually beneficial for both parties, and I don't think that many people outside villa appreciate that or the role that we've played in his development. Secondly, would he have signed that contract last year if United (or anyone else) had come in for him? With hindsight, I doubt it. No bids came in, so he signed a contract for 125K p/w (not bad for a 24 yr old with one full season of prem experience), and obviously had assurances built in (either through a minimum release fee or gentleman's agreement) that we wouldn't stand in the way if an offer came in. It's hardly the act of altruism and loyalty that some make it out to be. He simply didn't have other options, so agreed to a massive pay rise and has, essentially, f*cked off the very first time a serious offer came in. I'm pragmatic, and realised that sooner or later we could lose him, especially if we had made no progress last season. But for large parts of the season we looked like challenging for the top 7, and this season could have pushed on even further. He's 25 years old. Undoubtedly a move to City is a great opportunity in many ways, but its highly unlikely to be his last. At the very least, I was hoping he could stay for another year, help us challenge for Europe and become established near the top end of the table, and if he still wanted to move he would have other opportunities with his prime years ahead of him (and leave with villa in a much more secure position). Instead, he's left a week before the new season - a potentially crucial season in which we could either push on, or slide back down the table. I'm **** annoyed. I think he's tarnished his legacy and it's a d*ck move. Maybe my mood will soften over the coming days... Sincere apologies for the long winded rant! 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan501 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, Mark_1989 said: WE WILL BE OK!!! We have made £100m from a player who cost us £0 A player who very often misses 1/3 of a season We have owners who are seriously ambitious We are a stronger team without Jack with the new recruits we have bought in to the team we finished last season with and we will continue to add to it. We are still making progress! Trust the process! I've got zero emojis left but we'll said my friend absolutely spot on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 11 minutes ago, Villarocker said: Spot on, TRO. We will no longer be a team where if you stop Grealish you stop Villa. Opponents will now have our front four to worry about instead. It must do the other players' heads in when Jack gets the plaudits all the time. I didn't really want to mention this, (but I have thought it for a while).....In fear of it sounding like sour grapes....I have some further thoughts too, but will keep my powder dry. It might not be the dark day at B6 as much as it is with us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post birdistheword Posted August 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, HKP90 said: Sorry, i’m in a bad place right now. Wolverhampton? 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyjavfc Posted August 4, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted August 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, Davkaus said: Someone mentioned the possibility of Kane discussing his regrets with him, and it's absolute conjecture, but it's certainly got the ring of truth, hasn't it, and there are quite a few similarities between their career paths Players really are bloody sensitive about their individual legacy and trophy haul these days aren’t they? Harry Kane has had several shots at league and champions league success in the last 5 years at Tottenham and he’s moaning like he’s wasted his career at small Heath. Sometimes these things don’t pan out but that’s football - there are literally hundreds of other teams trying to win the same trophies so not everybody gets to win. City can pretty much guarantee trophies so these guys trip over themselves to get on board with them forgetting what they are giving up at the clubs they claim to support. Well your Wikipedia page might be slightly longer when you retire guys but you will soon be forgotten by the city fans and you won’t be welcome back at your boyhood clubs after this. They’ll be no statues built for you. Unless it’s all about the money afterall in which case congrats, you have gone from being very very rich to very very very rich. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano & Dalian's Umbrella Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 13 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Not happened yet. I'm holding onto that, it's all I got left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted August 4, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted August 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, birdistheword said: Wolverhampton? I was in Walsall, so yes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperTed Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Right, after seven or eight all inclusive lagers and trying to drown the Small Heath fan during Water Polo, I feel a lot better now What will be, will be. Feel a lot better at Grealish going than I did Barry, Milner and Delph. We’re in a much, much better place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Still not in the other football section which clearly confirms the mods have inside info. Grealish to make a dramatic U-turn and stay at the Villa. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Delphouneso Posted August 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 4, 2021 I won't boo him but I'll absolutely join in with the 'you're just a shit Leon Bailey' chants. 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshVilla Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 I'm quite relieved now, if I'm honest. Even if this hadn't happened this preseason, it was only going to be another year of the press talking him away and then him inevitably leaving next year. Don't get me wrong, the timing stinks and maybe with him staying and us getting a better finish next season then we'd be able to attract even better players and, who knows, maybe he'd buy into the vision after all. What this does, though, is finally gives us an opportunity to shake off the "one man team" shackles and maybe build a squad that doesn't look devoid of creativity if we lose one player to injury. The signings of Buendia and Bailey are certainly a good start. We may well get fleeced by every club that we try to negotiate with now that we've just pocketed £100m, but if we play it smart we could we be stronger without him. And, let's be honest, Jack's shins could give out in the first game of season and then could have been cursing not taking £100m when we had the chance. Silver linings and all that. It's still the same Villa that we all love. We could have the next Grealish in our academy right now, and in a few years, maybe we'll be competing for Europe more regularly so that they'll want to stay and be part of the full story here. UTV 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperTed Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, mikeyjavfc said: Players really are bloody sensitive about their individual legacy and trophy haul these days aren’t they? Harry Kane has had several shots at league and champions league success in the last 5 years at Tottenham and he’s moaning like he’s wasted his career at small Heath. Sometimes these things don’t pan out but that’s football - there are literally hundreds of other teams trying to win the same trophies so not everybody gets to win. City can pretty much guarantee trophies so these guys trip over themselves to get on board with them forgetting what they are giving up at the clubs they claim to support. Well your Wikipedia page might be slightly longer when you retire guys but you will soon be forgotten by the city fans and you won’t be welcome back at your boyhood clubs after this. They’ll be no statues built for you. Unless it’s all about the money afterall in which case congrats, you have gone from being very very rich to very very very rich. Was it Ollie McBurnie who was in the crowd at a Cardiff game or some other team? Shame because at a different time you’d love to see a Man City Grealish in amongst us but that’s only if he’d left 3 years ago. Now, well . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Just now, Delphouneso said: I won't boo him but I'll absolutely join in with the 'you're just a shit Leon Bailey' chants. It is true though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairy In Boots Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Final bit it’s north of £300k p/w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okonokos Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Fairy In Boots said: Final bit it’s north of £300k p/w I thought he was going for photos on Sunday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Fairy In Boots said: Final bit it’s north of £300k p/w Madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Fairy In Boots said: Final bit it’s north of £300k p/w Im on that per decade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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