sharkyvilla Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 33 minutes ago, KevinRichardsonsMoustache said: I find it remarkable that there hasn't been more scrutiny about the fee. He remains the most expensive British player of all time (= with Rice?) and that sort of thing used to bring massive attention. Perhaps it's a reflection of how insane transfer fees have become or that it is just pocket change to Citeh that it is barely even mentioned? Sometimes it feels like the media doesn't consider the fee a relevant issue or one that should be considered alongside his performances. Is it tacit acknowledgement that he wasn't worth it or that somehow when the fee was going to little ole' AVFC that it doesn't matter? I remember conversations in his first season there about his price tag, but it suddenly disappeared when he seemed to click into gear there. Now he's clearly on the downturn with Citeh, the small issue of the price is invisible. If you put the money back into the equation, you have to ask yourself: does he look like a £100m player? Does he exert the sort of influence that £100m should buy for any club? Does he get the media attention that comes to a £100m talisman? The answer to all three is no. And I think Jack knows it. Really, very few of the players in world football that have gone for over £100m have proved to be worth the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 2 VT Supporter Share Posted April 2 15 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I am people.... I loved him. I assume Sherwood is sending christmas cards to Gerrard from now on, given he's successfully taken over as the worst manager we've ever had 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 1 hour ago, KevinRichardsonsMoustache said: If you put the money back into the equation, you have to ask yourself: does he look like a £100m player? Does he exert the sort of influence that £100m should buy for any club? Does he get the media attention that comes to a £100m talisman? The answer to all three is no. And I think Jack knows it. I think the question is 'which 100m player looks like a 100m player?' Does Caicedo? Does Lukaku? Did Hazard? Enzo Fernandez? Kane? Heck, Mudryk and Antony almost cost that. You can probably argue that in this group, maybe Kane has achieved similar heights following the big fee move. But he won nothing (and will win nothing this season). A fee is not always a good representation of value. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinRichardsonsMoustache Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Just now, Mic09 said: Heck, Mudryk and Antony almost cost that. I really hope we didn't pay so much for Chris Heck...*insert gif that reflects what a tw*t I am to derail the thread* 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinRichardsonsMoustache Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 1 minute ago, Mic09 said: I think the question is 'which 100m player looks like a 100m player?' Does Caicedo? Does Lukaku? Did Hazard? Enzo Fernandez? Kane? Heck, Mudryk and Antony almost cost that. You can probably argue that in this group, maybe Kane has achieved similar heights following the big fee move. But he won nothing (and will win nothing this season). A fee is not always a good representation of value. This is such a great point: the clubs aren't stupid enough to not know this, but are so desperate for a symbol of intent (or sports washing) that they splash the cash. What a shame that such a generational talent became an ornament for the Sheikh's mantlepiece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 4 hours ago, villa4europe said: kids around the country aren't wearing their socks or their hair like KDB Doesn't help that he looks like prime 1991 Macauley Culkin putting on aftershave in the mirror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 An out of character Gary Powndland sticking up for Jack after him revealing in an interview his Mom asked why he gets booed at every ground. Fans of local rivals aside, Jack (and his mom) may want to cast his mind back to the Summer fo 2021 when he was the national darling and fans of England crying out for him. The booing began in the Community Shield with Leicester fans when he got subbed on shortly after his move to Man CIty. The kind of transfer that many perceive to represent all that is wrong with Man City and football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 32 minutes ago, Mic09 said: I think the question is 'which 100m player looks like a 100m player?' Does Caicedo? Does Lukaku? Did Hazard? Enzo Fernandez? Kane? Heck, Mudryk and Antony almost cost that. You can probably argue that in this group, maybe Kane has achieved similar heights following the big fee move. But he won nothing (and will win nothing this season). A fee is not always a good representation of value. Mbappe is the only one would say was good value Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 11 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: An out of character Gary Powndland sticking up for Jack after him revealing in an interview his Mom asked why he gets booed at every ground. Fans of local rivals aside, Jack (and his mom) may want to cast his mind back to the Summer fo 2021 when he was the national darling and fans of England crying out for him. The booing began in the Community Shield with Leicester fans when he got subbed on shortly after his move to Man CIty. The kind of transfer that many perceive to represent all that is wrong with Man City and football. bang on - as wolves themselves would know as their midfielder signed for city last summer for £60m (?) and has 6 PL starts to his name, he has 684 PL minutes to his name this season and 180 of them were for wolves its a **** joke and its killing football, take whatever they want when they have no realistic need for it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 2 VT Supporter Share Posted April 2 19 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: An out of character Gary Powndland sticking up for Jack after him revealing in an interview his Mom asked why he gets booed at every ground. Fans of local rivals aside, Jack (and his mom) may want to cast his mind back to the Summer fo 2021 when he was the national darling and fans of England crying out for him. The booing began in the Community Shield with Leicester fans when he got subbed on shortly after his move to Man CIty. The kind of transfer that many perceive to represent all that is wrong with Man City and football. He got booed at every away ground when he played for us. He's exactly the kind of player other fans hate. Flashy and dives a lot. If he'd never played for Villa we'd all hate him and be booing him too 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaVilla Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 (edited) Some wishful thinking going on in this thread. Jack’s transfer was the rare deal that worked for all three parties and all three would do the same deal again 100 times over. Jack will make over 150m from the deal (including the endorsements he’s since signed) and will get another mega deal no doubt when he leaves for Saudi or whichever club can afford him next and he played a key role in winning the treble. Man city won the treble and marketed the crap out of Jack. They’ve made a lot of their outlay back in commercial deals and shirts etc. We were desperate for the money in hindsight and had to sell or we would have had severe PSR issues. 100m was a kings ransom and allowed us to rebuild. Good luck to him but we probably couldn’t afford him back even if we wanted him and the reality is that there are better value deals to be done. Edited April 2 by DakotaVilla 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pez1974 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 7 minutes ago, DakotaVilla said: Some wishful thinking going on in this thread. Jack’s transfer was the rare deal that worked for all three parties and all three would do the same deal again 100 times over. Jack will make over 150m from the deal (including the endorsements he’s since signed) and will get another mega deal no doubt when he leaves for Saudi or whichever club can afford him next and he played a key role in winning the treble. Man city won the treble and marketed the crap out of Jack. They’ve made a lot of their outlay back in commercial deals and shirts etc. We were desperate for the money in hindsight and had to sell or we would have had severe PSR issues. 100m was a kings ransom and allowed us to rebuild. Good luck to him but we probably couldn’t afford him back even if we wanted him and the reality is that there are better value deals to be done. Unless he changes character massively, I suspect the alcohol free Saudi league is not going to be seeing Jack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaVilla Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Most of the players live in Bahrain and commute due to the more relaxed rules there. For 500k+ week tax free for 3 to 4 years I think he’d be absolutely fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Probably the best player I have ever seen in a Villa shirt. He's a prick because he was consistently chasing other moves, but also sitting on the fence with us about staying so each summer became the JG show. He's also been worth the money for MC. £100m today is £20m 10 years ago. And I wouldn't want him back at Villa. Lets move on. Oh and Pep was a clearing in the woods to him doing that on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 I'd have him back on a free on 80k a week max Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 (edited) 11 minutes ago, VillaJ100 said: I'd have him back on a free on 80k a week max He has earned his money. He can come back for £1 a week and do it for the love like Perisic has . He will have already earned £60 mill net from his move. Edited April 2 by MWARLEY2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 I would only take him back if its a free transfer and he is one of our lowest paid players. If that's really his dream to play for us again he will take it 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 He ain't coming back lol... He's still got what 3 years left on his current deal, earning 300k a week. We ain't paying the fee or the wages City and him would want. It's a shame for us he went when he did, but it was what he wanted. He didn't want to be here, he wanted guaranteed trophies now, not tomorrow. He's moved on, we've moved on..... and definitely for the better now, although it's taken time to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Villain Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Zatman said: I would only take him back if its a free transfer and he is one of our lowest paid players. If that's really his dream to play for us again he will take it I’ll only take him back if he apologises for being pivotal in having them be able to laugh at us more… if he apologises for us not being allow to sing “Champions of Europe, you’ll never sing that” because of him… if he apologises for making those overweight, uneducated worthless excuses of DNA happy… and takes a parting shot at Man City… insults their fans, the club, the owners, Pep, anyone else who has ever shown any shred of admiration for them… I’ll forgive him if, when he leaves City, he leaves a sour taste in their rat bastard mouths… but he won’t do that… he’s far too concerned with Brand Grealish… Edited April 2 by DJ_Villain Poor grammar 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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