choffer Posted December 14, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 14, 2020 The Christmas episode of Mortimer and Whitehouse Gone Fishing was as lovely as I’d hoped it would be. Chris Rea’s syrup though 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 On 09/12/2020 at 10:52, rjw63 said: Waiting for you to come back in this thread like... ok, so got halfway through S1 of Dark and it was standard time-travel rules etc. A little confusing with all the characters, but nothing too brain-taxing. Then the third time period got thrown in... and now i'm... Anyhow i got to the end of S1 and something stood out as a real oddity. Its set in Germany in 2019 (ignoring the timelines for a minute) and there is not 1 ethnic minority in the whole series. Not even a token black/asian person, even background extras are all just completely white. So is this the actual make-up of the population in Germany in 2019 or is this unintentional institutional racism from Netflix? It's weird how jarring it is to the series, i don't think i've seen any other tv show made in the last few years that is like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart_75 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Watched The Undoing over the weekend - meh nothing special at all. Started The Queen's Gambit, 1 episode in, I'll stick with it. Finished Warrior season 2 - Amazing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, ender4 said: So is this the actual make-up of the population in Germany in 2019 or is this unintentional institutional racism from Netflix? It's weird how jarring it is to the series, i don't think i've seen any other tv show made in the last few years that is like this. Estimates put the black population at somewhere around 1% in germany, but they don't collect stats on racial demographics. Considering that in the UK, it's about 3%, I'd argue black people are probably overrepresented on modern British TV compared to the general population, whereas asians seem quite underrepresented. At least in the shows I watch! Edited December 14, 2020 by Davkaus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, Davkaus said: Estimates put the black population at somewhere around 1% in germany, but they don't collect stats on racial demographics. Considering that in the UK, it's about 3%, I'd argue black people are probably overrepresented on modern British TV compared to the general population, whereas asians seem quite underrepresented. At least in the shows I watch! Though you are just talking about black people, not any non-white ethnicity. Isn't Germany around 20% non-white? Though now i'm thinking maybe this series is set in old East Germany which might be a lot more white. Edited December 14, 2020 by ender4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 3 hours ago, ender4 said: Thought you are just talking about black people, not any non-white ethnicity. Isn't Germany around 20% non-white? Though now i'm thinking maybe this series is set in old East Germany which might be a lot more white. I started looking for some stats and for some reason for tunnel vision while looking at specific stats for black people, no idea why, ignore me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, ender4 said: Its set in Germany in 2019 (ignoring the timelines for a minute) and there is not 1 ethnic minority in the whole series. Not even a token black/asian person, even background extras are all just completely white. So is this the actual make-up of the population in Germany in 2019 or is this unintentional institutional racism from Netflix? It's weird how jarring it is to the series, i don't think i've seen any other tv show made in the last few years that is like this. Going OT - I would say that it's normal, my wife is from a tiny village out in the sticks and spending time there it's very white, I've never seen a black guy there, in the bigger village there's a Turkish kebab shop and a Chinese place but in all the time over been there that's all I've seen, the wife says she went to school with 1 black kid but his family moved away since then There's a seemingly large Turkish population here but that's actually only around 5%, the country is roughly 90% white My office in bonn has 27 nationalities and no black people, we have Mexicans, Brazilians, Iranians, fair few from Asia but no one who is black There's no real historical or cultural ties to Africa or the Caribbean, they didn't have a colony anywhere like say France, Belgium or obviously us Edited December 14, 2020 by villa4europe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted December 15, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 15, 2020 2 episodes of The Sopranos left One of the greatest ever 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 (edited) 18 hours ago, villa4europe said: Going OT - I would say that it's normal, my wife is from a tiny village out in the sticks and spending time there it's very white, I've never seen a black guy there, in the bigger village there's a Turkish kebab shop and a Chinese place but in all the time over been there that's all I've seen, the wife says she went to school with 1 black kid but his family moved away since then There's a seemingly large Turkish population here but that's actually only around 5%, the country is roughly 90% white My office in bonn has 27 nationalities and no black people, we have Mexicans, Brazilians, Iranians, fair few from Asia but no one who is black There's no real historical or cultural ties to Africa or the Caribbean, they didn't have a colony anywhere like say France, Belgium or obviously us https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_former_German_colonies EDIT: I should probably give a non-dick comment, so here it is: You're both wrong and right at the same time. Germany had loads of colonies, and was an important colonial power, and this was not a trivial part of the background for the First World War. However, you are right that Germany did not have the post-colonial immigration of other western European nations. The basic reason for this is that post-colonial immigration was a solution for imperial powers facing labour shortages at the end of the Second World War, but because Germany had lost the First World War, it had already surrendered all of colonial possessions by 1919, before the era of widespread immigration began. Edited December 15, 2020 by HanoiVillan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted December 16, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 16, 2020 Anyone remember Live TV late 90's with shows like Topless Darts, Agony (Debbie Currie was on of the presenters) , Painted Ladies (two women who painted each other naked) to the tune of Take Hart, the weather in Norwegian with Ann Marie Foss. Men talking beer, Financial tips off a stripping page three girl etc, sample of Agony below Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 3 hours ago, Follyfoot said: Anyone remember Live TV late 90's with shows like Topless Darts, Agony (Debbie Currie was on of the presenters) , Painted Ladies (two women who painted each other naked) to the tune of Take Hart, the weather in Norwegian with Ann Marie Foss. Men talking beer, Financial tips off a stripping page three girl etc, sample of Agony below Tiffany's Big City Tips! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted December 16, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, coda said: Tiffany's Big City Tips! That’s the one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted December 16, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 16, 2020 On 09/12/2020 at 23:00, sheepyvillian said: eponymous, Bosch 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted December 17, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 17, 2020 On 09/12/2020 at 23:00, sheepyvillian said: the eponymous, Bosch From here on, he mus’ be known as the eponymous Bosch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart_75 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 I remember Topless Darts from the 90's. You'd always get some 3rd rate slapper with huge spaniels ears throwing the arrows. Fantastic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted December 17, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, stuart_75 said: I remember Topless Darts from the 90's. You'd always get some 3rd rate slapper with huge spaniels ears throwing the arrows. Fantastic. They were all crap at darts as well, not that that really mattered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted December 17, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 17, 2020 just finished 'industry' on iPlayer. really enjoyed it...a solid amount of debauchery too, which was a pleasant surprise for a BBC production Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted December 17, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 17, 2020 19 hours ago, coda said: Tiffany's Big City Tips! She got run over by a train in 2018 and died I’ve just found out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 First episode of the new Steven King, The Stand series is out today and apparently there is a organized campaign from Johnny Depp fans to tank the show on IMDB. Tons of 1/10 reviews who are all about how CBS should not have hired Amber Heard. Not watched it yet but I imagine it's better than the 5.4 rating it currently has on IMDB And in other news the Grand Tour Madagascar Special is also out today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 8 hours ago, blandy said: From here on, he mus’ be known as the eponymous Bosch Was I wrong in putting Bosch after eponymous ? Do tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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