Seat68 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 24 minutes ago, il_serpente said: Tru dat, but you can't beat the convenience. Convenience you say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 2 hours ago, bickster said: So would @avfcDJand he even would have when she was a chubster Any day of the week 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 11, 2020 Author VT Supporter Share Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, Davkaus said: I'm pleasantly surprised by how uncontroversial the non-binary gender discussion has been. I expected the worst. Good job, VT. I agree, but there's a couple of posters who spring to mind who haven't contributed yet. I wouldn't celebrate just yet Edit: yeah what @Xann said Edited August 11, 2020 by Stevo985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted August 11, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 11, 2020 2 hours ago, bickster said: I've had it possibly 30 years now, not in a particular severe way, in that it doesn't really bother me most of the time but I think thats because I've just learned to deal with it. It's why I play music a lot in the house as that seems to take my mind off it. Ironic really music caused it and music is my solution Exactly the same for me. Oddly, it sometimes stops completely, for days, weeks, or even months. But it always comes back. It's a sort of low level sound somwhere between whistling and sizzling. Used to be left ear only, but recently the right has started up too, and at any one time it could be either, both, or neither. Loud music caused it, loud(ish) music can mask it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted August 11, 2020 Moderator Share Posted August 11, 2020 11 hours ago, Davkaus said: I'm pleasantly surprised by how uncontroversial the non-binary gender discussion has been. I expected the worst. Good job, VT. The power of persuasion is quite strong. What I mean by this is that when @Xann posted 21 hours ago, Xann said: On the brilliant/lunacy trip. Kate Tempest has had a lifestyle change. No longer a 'she', but a 'they'. my thoughts were kind of "she's [they're] brilliant...so all good". I don't actually care one way or the other. The whole "celebrity" interest thing rates nil interest on my scale anyway, but if someone you admire does something, then it's easy to "support" or understand. If it had been someone I don't admire I might have thought "oh, cripes more attention seeking celebrity narcissism". But the aspects that are controversial (not with regard to Kate) are around balancing rights - protecting women who were born women and identify as women from people who were born male and identify as female for nefarious purposes, versus protecting rights for people who are genuinely "in the wrong body". And then the second issue of protecting young people who may make choices around surgery that they come to regret over time, due to pressures from peers, the internet and so on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted August 11, 2020 Moderator Share Posted August 11, 2020 3 hours ago, bickster said: I've had it possibly 30 years now, not in a particular severe way, in that it doesn't really bother me most of the time, but I think that's because I've just learned to deal with it. It's why I play music a lot in the house as that seems to take my mind off it. Ironic really music caused it and music is my solution Me too, though for not as long. Background sounds mostly mean I don't notice it, but silence and it's pretty annoying. To an extent I can kind of tune it out most of the time, without getting rid of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 31 minutes ago, blandy said: But the aspects that are controversial (not with regard to Kate) are around balancing rights - protecting women who were born women and identify as women from people who were born male and identify as female for nefarious purposes, versus protecting rights for people who are genuinely "in the wrong body". The problem is that in practical terms what everybody who wants to 'protect women' in this way wants to do is remove rights and protections that were granted by the 2010 Equality Act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 55 minutes ago, blandy said: The power of persuasion is quite strong. What I mean by this is that when @Xann posted my thoughts were kind of "she's [they're] brilliant...so all good". I don't actually care one way or the other. The whole "celebrity" interest thing rates nil interest on my scale anyway, but if someone you admire does something, then it's easy to "support" or understand. If it had been someone I don't admire I might have thought "oh, cripes more attention seeking celebrity narcissism". But the aspects that are controversial (not with regard to Kate) are around balancing rights - protecting women who were born women and identify as women from people who were born male and identify as female for nefarious purposes, versus protecting rights for people who are genuinely "in the wrong body". And then the second issue of protecting young people who may make choices around surgery that they come to regret over time, due to pressures from peers, the internet and so on. They's name is Kae, don't deadname them you bigot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted August 11, 2020 Moderator Share Posted August 11, 2020 1 hour ago, HanoiVillan said: The problem is that in practical terms what everybody who wants to 'protect women' in this way wants to do is remove rights and protections that were granted by the 2010 Equality Act. QED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 11, 2020 Moderator Share Posted August 11, 2020 2 hours ago, mjmooney said: Exactly the same for me. Oddly, it sometimes stops completely, for days, weeks, or even months. But it always comes back. It's a sort of low level sound somwhere between whistling and sizzling. Used to be left ear only, but recently the right has started up too, and at any one time it could be either, both, or neither. Loud music caused it, loud(ish) music can mask it. Yes, mine does either go away completely or I've learned to completely tune it out at a certain level. I find it gets worse the more run down I am. Lockdown has been great for it tbh as I've been sleeping better but I've had two shit nights sleep in a row (Thunder and lightning both nights) and today and yesterday its back with avengence 2 hours ago, blandy said: Me too, though for not as long. Background sounds mostly mean I don't notice it, but silence and it's pretty annoying. To an extent I can kind of tune it out most of the time, without getting rid of it. Yep, silence is annoying. It's why I often go to sleep with the telly on for an hour, usually a program I have zero interest in. But I also find that pink or white noise can help me sleep too FYI @NurembergVillan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddywhack Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Stevo985 said: I agree, but there's a couple of posters who spring to mind who haven't contributed yet. I wouldn't celebrate just yet Edit: yeah what @Xann said My ignore list has doubled over the last few months. I know it’s petty, but I don’t want to waste my time reading that type of shite anymore. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, Paddywhack said: My ignore list has doubled over the last few months. I know it’s petty, but I don’t want to waste my time reading that type of shite anymore. I've never ignored anyone - does it alter the way a conversation between the blocked/unblocked has? I can't let words on a screen annoy me, I just skip passed if there's something I know I won't agree with. STOP CENSORING PEOPLE YOU COMMIE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, Paddywhack said: I know it’s petty, but I don’t want to waste my time reading that type of shite anymore. It's comedy from over the edge they span off. They is dizzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troon_villan Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, lapal_fan said: I've never ignored anyone - does it alter the way a conversation between the blocked/unblocked has? I can't let words on a screen annoy me, I just skip passed if there's something I know I won't agree with. STOP CENSORING PEOPLE YOU COMMIE! Who said that? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 1 minute ago, troon_villan said: Who said that? You don't wanna know 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 I see the value in muting/blocking but as an example lets say someone is an ardent trump lover, as an example. I find every single other post apart from Trump deflection is good to read. I think there is value in everyones posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisVillan Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 19 minutes ago, Seat68 said: I see the value in muting/blocking but as an example lets say someone is an ardent trump lover, as an example. I find every single other post apart from Trump deflection is good to read. I think there is value in everyones posts. I don't. Mine, for example, are just awful. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 11, 2020 Author VT Supporter Share Posted August 11, 2020 31 minutes ago, Seat68 said: I see the value in muting/blocking but as an example lets say someone is an ardent trump lover, as an example. I find every single other post apart from Trump deflection is good to read. I think there is value in everyones posts. This is my approach most of the time. But there are some very obvious exceptions around at the moment. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il_serpente Posted August 11, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 11, 2020 Why does this conversation seem disjointed, with pieces obviously missing? Asking for a friend. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tonyh29 Posted August 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Seat68 said: I see the value in muting/blocking but as an example lets say someone is an ardent trump lover, as an example. I find every single other post apart from Trump deflection is good to read. I think there is value in everyones posts. Pretty much Agreed , I don't use the ignore function , people are entitled to voice an opinion regardless of my views … if a post links to twitter then I tend to ignore that post and If I'm busy I do sometime have to apply my own filter and not reply to something that is going to end up taking far too much time , but I have at least read it . I find the notion of pretending to ignore someone then taking little digs at them and what they are posting a bit baffling though , either ignore them or don't 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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