dudevillaisnice Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 29 minutes ago, supermon said: It's about time we do the dirty stuff to win a game, for far too long we have been too soft. I'm all for it if we win, don't give a shit what others think Agree. We have been too soft as a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 14 minutes ago, dudevillaisnice said: Agree. We have been too soft as a team. Lol it’s funny reading what other fans have said about Villa over the years. You’d think we were the dirtiest team in history with some of the comments levied against us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) 43 minutes ago, DCJonah said: I thought it was disgraceful they got 8 minutes. Wasn't even close to that. Yeah was very bizarre. IIRC United got 6 minutes last week and there were arguably longer stoppages in that game. I don't blame the players for trying to run the clock down. Edited November 13, 2022 by Mantis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 today it didn't really work as they just added on the extra time anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 We will end up with a reputation for it and the refs will end up being extra harsh on us probably. I get pissed off when players end up getting suspensions for things like time wasting or taking your shirt off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 I hate it. I hope it was only a short term crutch for this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) 52 minutes ago, DCJonah said: I thought it was disgraceful they got 8 minutes. Wasn't even close to that. I think there were 6 sub breaks (a couple of them were double subs) so that’s usually 30 seconds each = 3 mins. Goal is usually 30-60 seconds? = 3:30 - 4 mins total Buendia injury + Martinez “injury” = ??? Maybe brings you up to 5:30 mins? Lots of fouls & free kicks, slow goal kicks and throw ins. 8 mins was maybe a bit excessive but it wasn’t far off that. Problem is refs generally don’t add enough time on unless Man Utd are losing, so we’re used to it being less. Edited November 13, 2022 by KentVillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 55 minutes ago, DCJonah said: I thought it was disgraceful they got 8 minutes. It’s 30 seconds per sub. That’s probably half the time they add on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Seemed excessive to me. Newcastle v Chelsea got 8 mins and that was with a player bleeding from the head. I don't think I've ever seen 8 minutes when there wasn't some sort of serious injury. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) Two totally pointless yellow cards for Cash and Martinez and eight minutes of added time suggest there is a heavy price to pay for time wasting, I’m struggling to identify the advantages it gives us to counterbalance punishments like that. Edited November 13, 2022 by briny_ear 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, briny_ear said: Two totally pointless yellow cards for Cash and Martinez and eight minutes of added time suggest there is a heavy price to pay for time wasting, I’m struggling to identify the advantages it gives us to counterbalance punishments like that. Tbf the Cash booking was absurd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa 59 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Did any of you guys watch Brighton against Wolves and Chelsea recently where they saw both games out to win. They were every bit as bad as we were today! They reap what they sew is how I look at it. Why on earth should we disadvantage ourselves but not following suit? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 I didn't think we were that bad to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Segundo Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 I agree with the OP. I would say that we've needed for a long time to be a bit more streetwise. For example Man City are very adept at the tactical fouling to end breakaways, and players like Xhaka are very good at causing bust ups to waste a bit of time.. But I think today and recently against Leeds has been OTT. Especially Martinez. It will come back to bite him one day. I guess we'll be fined too for getting 7 yellows. That said I've never seen us get 8 minutes added when teams have done it to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 28 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Seemed excessive to me. Newcastle v Chelsea got 8 mins and that was with a player bleeding from the head. I don't think I've ever seen 8 minutes when there wasn't some sort of serious injury. Up to 80th minute I'd agree but from that up to injury time there was hardly any football played with the constant stop start nature which we wanted. Martinez was certainly down for two minutes and then we decided to make a triple sub and Brighton manager also decided to get himself booked over the non penalty so that prettty much accounted for half of the eight minutes in the end. If we're to become a serious team in the league again we need to show we can come through that type of adversity and actually win the game so I wasn't too bothered especially as Brighton were still passing sideways amongst themselves 6 minutes into the added time which was an incredible watch since they were losing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 hour ago, DCJonah said: I thought it was disgraceful they got 8 minutes. Wasn't even close to that. Yes but why give them the excuse to add 8 minutes when aome of our players blatently are doing it. Martinez has had 2-3 bookings for time wastjng. Its embarrassing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mark Albrighton Posted November 13, 2022 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler Sad fact is, sometimes you have to… Spoiler …time… Spoiler … Spoiler …waste. Edited November 13, 2022 by Mark Albrighton 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted November 13, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted November 13, 2022 I was amazed when EMI got booked and the little box popped up to say it’s only his second yellow of the season. Thought it would be more. It helps us see out games and we’ve pulled it off today. The 8 mins added on was also killed off pretty well today too. It was a tight game that required a bit of steel and disruption to Brightons play. I’m ok with it to be honest, but hopefully just not every week - needs must sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 We only get punished as we are a smaller team. The big teams get away with time wasting and shithousery on a regular basis. Screw ‘em. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AndyM3000 Posted November 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2022 Has happened for years and will keep happening. If football just changed to 2 x 30 min clock that pauses when the ball isn't in play then this removes all of this time wasting instantly. It also removes the chance of bent refs to add on more time for the top teams. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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