Genie Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 I was curious what the general consensus was on here with regards to Villa’s extreme time wasting in recent times. For me there’s game management, you obviously don’t rush to take your set pieces, and you don’t sprint off when being subbed but Villa seem to be going down the road of taking the piss which personally I’m not a fan of. Martinez pushing things to the extreme with exceptionally long goal kicks, fake injuries and fake spats all the run down the clock. Lots of yellow cards today too which will come back and bite us at some point, plus the ref added 8 minutes so it suggests there isn’t a huge amount of benefit. What the VT view on it? Should we be going to these lengths to disrupt the flow of league games? Or should we be a bit more classy and play the game out (with caveats as mentioned above)? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero7 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 It’s game management and I’m all for the $shithousery 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Reivax_Villa Posted November 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2022 If we win as a result I don’t care.. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 I live for the day a referee books a keeper for time wasting then on the next goal kick books him again tbfh. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rightdm00 Posted November 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2022 What is extreme time wasting? Everything was done within the rules of the game. If Brighton doesn't like it then maybe they shouldn't waste so much time with their extremely slow buildup play. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post daft Posted November 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2022 That and diving actively makes the game of football actually painful to watch. It's detracts from the game and is essentially a hostile action aimed directly at spectators, bo matter how clever it might be, tactically. Essentially it **** sucks. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 who cares who you're winning games. End of thread 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Emi does take it to extremes on occasions. Everyone in the ground knew he wasn't injured when he threw the ball out after saving. I was actually surprised Brighton gave us the ball back as that was blatant gamesmanship/cheating. Beyond that it's what you have to do to win a tough away game. How many times has a side done us at VP by endlessly wasting in last 20 minutes? 8 minutes were added on and when you consider there was only one goal and a few stoppage for subs probably ref put on about five minutes for time wasting so we were punished as that's still on extreme end of scale. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 I had a feeling it would be a very divisive subject. Many will certainly fall in the side of “I don’t care if we win” and I get that. Several yellow cards suggest it wasn’t all done within the rules. A lot of it also not done within the spirit of the game (Martinez). The ref added a huge amount of time, when the players are tired also suggests it’s not really the best idea anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) Hate it but it’s on the officials to do something about it. I take it as a given that players will do, and push to the limit, everything they can to extract an advantage. Edited November 13, 2022 by penguin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustibrooks Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 I understand why people would hate it as it’s 'unsavoury', but I’m here for it provided it works. I’m kind of tired of us trying to be nice and play nice, most of the elite teams in the world are the opposite of that. If we aspire to be an elite club then we should also do things like timewasting etc. For a while I’ve always wondered why our players don’t commit tactical fouls in the same way other clubs do(In the way Rodri for City does it) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) I hope we time waste, dive and all the other shithousery as much as possible. Martinez is one of the very best at it. I love it. Edited November 13, 2022 by Farlz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: I live for the day a referee books a keeper for time wasting then on the next goal kick books him again tbfh. If/when it happens, it’ll be Emi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zen Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, messi11 said: who cares who you're winning games. End of thread The beauty in this being a double post 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 In fine with it if done properly. I’m not sure causing 8 mins of added time, getting several bookings and phasing Brighton off to the extent they really wanted to finish us was the right way to do it. Throwing the ball out was **** stupid from Martinez and I was amazed Brighton gave it back. We should be wasting more in possession and if not in possession be a bit smarter about how we do it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 To hear the Brighton fans cry, it was worth it. 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) Always hated time wasting. I would prefer it to not happen, at least not to the degree it happened today. Don’t mind Emi taking slightly longer to launch the ball every now and then. Mentioned this in the game thread but time wasting should be done through maintaining possession and trapping the ball in corners. But I’m an idealist. Edited November 13, 2022 by Aston_Villan4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Demitri_C Posted November 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2022 I dont like it we would hate it against us so lets stop this shit. Martinez is embarrassing the club with his amtics. We are getting stupid yellows for this and also means we get the crowd against us even more and the refs add stupids amount of injury time 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerner's Driver Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Fair question and criticism. Don't care, when we are away from home and winning. We aren't good enough to rampage............yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rightdm00 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Yellow cards are part of football, just like a foul. Brighton wasted 2 minutes in extra time just passing the ball back forth across their back line. They seemed in no real rush, so good sportsmanship on Villa to slow it down to there pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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