dont_do_it_doug. Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Just now, HKP90 said: You say due diligence, but with no track record, that just amounts to his attitude at the interview. When you compare him with someone who has managed at the top level before it IS a gamble. Long term planning by it’s nature involves reducing risk and uncertainty as much as possible. That’s why it’s a plan. He has managed nearly 200 games. I was surprised too, but he has been there for over 3 seasons. They have competed well in Europe also during this time. Being experienced in the Premier League doesn’t automatically reduce the risk. It’s the same debate we have when signing players. I’m not advocating for him, but perhaps they are weighting certain risk factors differently to you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted November 7, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted November 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Indigo said: Yep, was envious of them when it seemed nailed on but that it came so close to happening would give me hope that we could pull it off. He's the ideal candidate for me. Indeed, that occurred to me. He must be open to a switch to the PL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 8 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Wasn’t Favre heavily linked with Palace in the summer, only to pull out late in the process? I would suggest that makes him “available” to us. Yes, he was definitely linked with them and then withdrew late on. I have to say Favre appeals to me more than Gerrard, if for no other reason than the experience of managing in a league with such a high level of scrutiny. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: He has managed nearly 200 games. I was surprised too, but he has been there for over 3 seasons. They have competed well in Europe also during this time. Being experienced in the Premier League doesn’t automatically reduce the risk. It’s the same debate we have when signing players. I’m not advocating for him, but perhaps they are weighting certain risk factors differently to you. Ahh the old "needs to have Premier League experience '. I remember that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, HKP90 said: You say due diligence, but with no track record, that just amounts to his attitude at the interview. When you compare him with someone who has managed at the top level before it IS a gamble. Long term planning by it’s nature involves reducing risk and uncertainty as much as possible. That’s why it’s a plan. But you would have AVB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Ten Hag would be nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Yes, he was definitely linked with them and then withdrew late on. I have to say Favre appeals to me more than Gerrard, if for no other reason than the experience of managing in a league with such a high level of scrutiny. What I like about Favre is he's got good record of dragging underperforming clubs from mid table or lower and getting them into europe pretty quickly. He did an incredible job at 'Gladbach and did pretty well at Nice (indeed better than Vieria did). Dortmund was so-so, won a cup but didn't really challenge Bayern seriously. Mind you was same for Tuchel aswell. He's proven and the sort who'd quickly get respect of squad I think so if he's seriously on our radar I'd go for him all day long over Gerrard. He also finished 4th in Bundesliga with Hertha Berlin in 08/09. Poor start to next season saw him sacked. Edited November 7, 2021 by VillaChris 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted November 7, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted November 7, 2021 Just now, dont_do_it_doug. said: He has managed nearly 200 games. I was surprised too, but he has been there for over 3 seasons. They have competed well in Europe also during this time. Being experienced in the Premier League doesn’t automatically reduce the risk. It’s the same debate we have when signing players. I’m not advocating for him, but perhaps they are weighting certain risk factors differently to you. Fair enough, and I respect that, but of those 200 games, how many were dead rubbers? It’s not the same risk as signing players with no experience. This will decide the direction of the club for the next few years. I suppose one skill he has been demonstrating is avoiding complacency when facing inferior teams. Tbf we’ve always made hard work of supposedly poor teams. We always lose cup games to bloody lower league teams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, Gompedyret said: Kasper Hjulmand? Can't help but feeling this is one of the most exciting links. Though managing a national side is different than a PL team, there's no denying his success. Success, you mean like Southgate? Both of them have truly dreadful records in club management. I’d be surprised and concerned if we appointed him. Probably just a lazy link because of Lang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 hour ago, NurembergVillan said: I've decided I want Andre Villas-Boas. Thank you. 34 minutes ago, Sulberto21 said: For info - I’ve decided I want Marcelo Gallardo. 25 minutes ago, Danny_Villaman84 said: * ralf rangnick - So I don't think we will go for it - I keep mention him since 2014 each manager time sack, i still want him. Even i been link to his youtube about his tactical. These are my favourites from all the names mentioned tonight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Phil Silvers said: These are my favourites from all the names mentioned tonight. Unfortunately I doubt we get any of them according to the noises and what’s been mentioned on here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VillaChris Posted November 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2021 Well worth a look at Favre's wiki: Quote During the 2008–09 season, he guided Hertha to an excellent fourth-place position,[17] having at his disposal just the 13th-largest budget of the 2008–09 Bundesliga. Hertha played in the UEFA Cup[18] and were eliminated in the group stage.[19] In February 2009, one of the highlights of his spell in Germany was the brilliant tactical display of Hertha against Bayern Munich in a full Olympiastadion (almost 75,000 spectators). This performance allowed them to beat the erstwhile reigning German champions 2–1 to take Hertha temporarily top of the Bundesliga. Favre extended his contract for an additional year. The 2009–10 season, however, did not look as promising for Hertha – its increasing financial difficulties prevented them from recruiting efficiently. Furthermore, three of the club's top players left in the summer: Josip Šimunić, Andriy Voronin and Marko Pantelić. At the end of September 2009, Hertha were struggling in the league and Favre was relieved of his duties by the club.[20] Favre's final match was a 5–1 loss to 1899 Hoffenheim.[21] Favre finished with a record of 40 wins, 20 draws, and 34 losses On 14 February 2011, Favre was named as the successor of Michael Frontzeck as head coach of Borussia Mönchengladbach.[23] He took over when the team was sitting at the bottom of the league with only 16 points after 22 match days, seven points adrift of Bundesliga safety.[24] He instigated an immediate improvement in form and although the club still struggled, they eventually managed a narrow win against VfL Bochum in a two-legged relegation play-off to secure their place in the Bundesliga.[25] In the following season, the team surpassed all expectations by finishing in fourth place, thereby qualifying for the early stages of the 2012–13 UEFA Champions League.[26] However, they were beaten in the play-off round by Dynamo Kyiv.[27] The team's brand of fluid, counter-attacking football impressed pundits and press alike and was typified by an emphatic double win over Bayern Munich both home and away.[28] Favre's Gladbach were not as successful in the 2012–13 Bundesliga, however, falling to eighth.[29] Some suggested that the added weight of playing in Europe coupled with the sales of numerous key players, such as Marco Reus, was to blame for this. The next season saw Gladbach rise to sixth, largely due to the astute signings of Max Kruse, Raffael and Christoph Kramer. During the 2013–14 season, Borussia Mönchengladbach were knocked out of the DFB-Pokal in the first round[30] when SV Darmstadt 98 defeated Mönchengladbach in a shoot–out.[31] The 2014–15 Bundesliga season was Favre's most successful season to date, with Gladbach finishing in third place and directly qualifying for the 2015–16 UEFA Champions League group stage.[32] Favre's side were defensively brilliant and their passing style of play saw them record several notable victories, including a 2–0 away win against Bayern Munich[33] and a comprehensive 3–0 victory at home to Bayer Leverkusen[33] that ultimately sealed their qualification to the Champions League. After losing the first five league games of the 2015–16 season, Favre resigned on 20 September 2015.[34] His final match was a 1–0 loss to 1. FC Köln the previous day.[35] During his time at Gladbach, Favre revived a fallen giant of football, taking them from certainties for relegation to the pinnacle of world football in the Champions League. Favre finished with a record of 88 wins, 49 draws, and 52 losses On 24 May 2016, Favre was appointed as Nice manager, replacing Claude Puel.[37] This appointment was widely considered as a coup for Nice by the French media. He brought in only one backroom staff, Adrian Ursea.[38][39] In his first season, Nice finished third and qualified for the Champions League, their best league position in decades. This guy knows how to go in and improve mid ranking clubs with reasonable budgets in major leagues. Sounds like us dosen't it. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 15 minutes ago, MotoMkali said: I posted spurs sacked Nuno so they could get Conte before united. Nah it wasn’t you. At least, the sexy Mings avatar doesn’t ring a bell in association to the post I (think) I saw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Ahh the old "needs to have Premier League experience '. I remember that one. Don’t think anyone has said that, just that they’d prefer experience from, say, the Bundesliga or Ligue 1 to the SPL. As I said before it’s like getting a manager from League One - which is not necessarily a problem, we don’t have a bad track record with managers from the lower leagues…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Well worth a look at Favre's wiki: This guy knows how to go in and improve mid ranking clubs with reasonable budgets in major leagues. Sounds like us dosen't it. I don’t know much about him at all but sounds like he’d be a reasonable shout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Quote Importantly, both formations are particularly useful for pressing, because of the natural diamonds that can be created, and the inclination towards protecting central areas in defence, even if the shape stretches in attacking phases. Both formations also allow for verticality in attack, aiding in River Plate's quick transitions and fluid tiki-taka. Finally, in both formations, width is free to come from the fullbacks, who often push high up the pitch and overlap central midfielders. if anyone wants a read. P.S Julian Alvarez would definitely be a Villan if we had Gallardo. https://www.rdftactics.com/post/marcelogallardotactics-riverplatetacticalanalysis-bestfm21tactics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Think we will do better with a foreign coach than an English one, thi k it's obvious as well as to how English Manager fair to foreign Managers. Owners have to be sensible here, if they want to win things and get our lads playing next level football, they are going to spend big. If they are happy to be a statistic in this league then the Smith sacking makes no sense, but if they want to go somewhere and get Europe they are going to have to gamble... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 hour ago, birdistheword said: Because a couple of posters claiming to be ‘ITK’ who obviously aren’t. It could still be Gerrard but I wouldn’t say anyone here has solid info. Stop being a wet towel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 19 minutes ago, Indigo said: Yep, was envious of them when it seemed nailed on but that it came so close to happening would give me hope that we could pull it off. He's the ideal candidate for me. Oh wow, that actually gives me hope. If he was considering Palace, then we have a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted November 8, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted November 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, IrishVilla10 said: But you would have AVB? Managed two clubs in the PL, got club record points haul with Spurs just missing out on CL spot, 2nd place in Ligue 1 with Marseille, managed in five countries, won the league in two (admittedly not top leagues), got european coach of the year one year. He’s got more of a track record than Gerrard for sure. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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