useless Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 (edited) Apparently he recommended Son for Spurs and Mahrez for Leicester, and is very much into his data analysis. Sounds like a positive move. Rob Mackenzie that is. Edited August 6, 2020 by useless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Keyblade said: The only wingers to score more than 15 goals in the last decade are: The aforementioned Hazard Salah Mane Alexis Sanchez Sterling Gareth Bale Riyadh Mahrez In today's market, they'd all be 80m+. They are not really “wingers” in the traditional sense are they, same as Benrahma. They are forwards. No point in going over and over it. It’s my view, same as someone else pointed out, if we blow our transfer budget on players from lower leagues and inferior foreign leagues we’ll struggle again (IMO). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 12 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Are you mental? I think he means less than £60m each, not less than Benhrama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSmith22 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Villastine said: Sheffield Utd have bid £12m for Aaron Ramsdale. Hopefully we don't need a keeper. We should absolutely be in for Ramsdale if that fee is in the ballpark. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Just now, Genie said: They are not really “wingers” in the traditional sense are they, same as Benrahma. They are forwards. No point in going over and over it. It’s my view, same as someone else pointed out, if we blow our transfer budget on players from lower leagues and inferior foreign leagues we’ll struggle again (IMO). Fine, wide forwards, whatever it's just semantics. They're not the same as center forwards, who are the ones who typically would bag 20+ goals. Mane scoring 20 goals isn't exactly the same as Danny Ings scoring 20 is it? Which 17 goal wide forward from a top league do you suggest we can get, that will incredibly also cost less than the 25-30m quoted for Benrahma? (Please don't list center forwards again). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Keyblade said: Fine, wide forwards, whatever it's just semantics. They're not the same as center forwards, who are the ones who typically would bag 20+ goals. Mane scoring 20 goals isn't exactly the same as Danny Ings scoring 20 is it? Which 17 goal wide forward from a top league do you suggest we can get, that will incredibly also cost less than the 25-30m quoted for Benrahma? (Please don't list center forwards again). Marc Albrighton, maybe not 17 goals but would create a lot too Edited August 6, 2020 by Genie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fox1884 Posted August 6, 2020 Visiting Supporter Popular Post Share Posted August 6, 2020 14 minutes ago, VillaHatesMe said: Signed Mahrez at Leicester. Alderwerhoweveryouspelliti at Spurs. Just fyi, it was Steve Walsh who found Mahrez for us, Mackenzie was part of the analytics team that highlighted him on our targets list when we were looking for certain players with a certain criteria (in his case it was wide players with 1 year left on their contract who made progressive runs and a few other things) 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 37 minutes ago, Genie said: If we blow £50m on 2 Championship players then I’m worried we’ve not learned our lesson. At that kind of price they HAVE to make the step up, which is a risk and it’s pressure. I don't think we will buy both of them for the precise reasons you have suggested. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Albrighton and Tammy, £50-£55m combined. 20-30 goals combined. I’d much rather those personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Genie said: Albrighton and Tammy, £50-£55m combined. 20-30 goals combined. I’d much rather those personally. Just Tammy for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 6, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 6, 2020 2 hours ago, DCJonah said: I'm always amazed that people choose to do it. So much effort and for what? nu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Interesting article from 2016 about Mackenzie https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11096/10694789/the-changing-face-of-scouting-the-challenge-of-buying-from-abroad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Genie said: Albrighton and Tammy, £50-£55m combined. 20-30 goals combined. I’d much rather those personally. Is Albrighton on a free or something? And does Tammy want to leave + do Chelsea want to sell him? And do Leicester want to sell Albrighton? And do these players want to come to us? Edited August 6, 2020 by Rolta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Just now, Rolta said: Is Albrighton on a free or something? Keep up, it was officially announced a couple of pages back he’s available for £40m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 13 minutes ago, Genie said: Marc Albrighton, maybe not 17 goals but would create a lot too 30 year old Marc Albrighton who got 0 goals and 5 assists all season? Compare that to El Ghazi, for example, whogot 6 goals and 7 assists in a much worse team. Yeah, it's a no thanks to Albrighton, especially compared to Benrahma. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, Rolta said: Is Albrighton on a free or something? And does Tammy want to leave + do Chelsea want to sell him? And do Leicester want to sell Albrighton? And do these players want to come to us? You can copy and paste those questions into every football transfer thread on every clubs message board in the country. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, MessiWillSignForVilla said: 30 year old Marc Albrighton who got 0 goals and 5 assists all season? Compare that to El Ghazi, for example, whogot 6 goals and 7 assists in a much worse team. Yeah, it's a no thanks to Albrighton, especially compared to Benrahma. Tbh I don’t mind AEG, he’s not the worst of our issues (as the stats show). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 48 minutes ago, imavillan said: You miss my point. Now we have managed to stay up by the skin of our teeth with the 3 players who are Prem level we need to be aiming our sights higher with our signings. We have rich owners. When Man City and Chelsea were in this position they didn't raid Brentford or the rest of the championship !!!! There was no FFP, there were only established Top 4 (now they’re top 6, atleast another 2 in a level themselves). We aren’t established PL team yet. Most teams are good financially and no one would sell their best player for a reasonable amount. We can only attract half decent players and with FFP we can’t depend on getting names for the sake of it and not look at future (Chelsea and City used to get old players by then). We’re more likely to do the Spurs way which we should’ve done in Lerner days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Tom13 said: I'd prefer Rocksteady to Bibop Lord this brought back some memories! I was a Ninja Turtle fanatic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 I have really gone off Benrahma, I just think for the money it isn't worth the risk, there is much less risk for the same or better level of player for the same money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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