jacketspuds Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Brentfordnylons said: Not sure if Benrahma is going to you as well If you got Davis, El Ghazi and £20m I would imagine that would be a good deal for all. You've probably got 2 similar players lined up for 50p each anyway. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Just now, jacketspuds said: If you got Davis, El Ghazi and £20m I would imagine that would be a good deal for all. You've probably got 2 similar players lined up for 50p each anyway. Do they want Neil Taylor for Rico Henry as well? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 I just can't see what players we could have Brentford would be keen on, that also would be interested in a switch. Our youngsters that are good enough for some Championship rotation, will only go on loan, and there's no point to that for Brentford. They are just too good of a club atm. Davis maybe? Would be a mistake to let him go permanent IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, jacketspuds said: If you got Davis, El Ghazi and £20m I would imagine that would be a good deal for all. You've probably got 2 similar players lined up for 50p each anyway. You really think there's even a remote chance AEG would go to Brentford? I just can't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tomav84 Posted August 7, 2020 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted August 7, 2020 the big thing with buying both benrahma and watkins is that it's a ready made relationship both with each other and our manager. that's not to be scoffed at...it's a massive hurdle to overcome for any player to a new club but it would remove that entirely. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 minute ago, KenjiOgiwara said: I just can't see what players we could have Brentford would be keen on, that also would be interested in a switch. Our youngsters that are good enough for some Championship rotation, will only go on loan, and there's no point to that for Brentford. They are just too good of a club atm. Davis maybe? Would be a mistake to let him go permanent IMO. I’d swop Watkins for Davis + cash in a heartbeat. Even as a winger Watkins scored more goals than Davis did as a striker. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philosopher Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 44 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: Yeah he is shite. 22 year old England international with near 100 goals under his belt. Let's bring back Hogan and stick with Samagoal. Where did I say he was shite, what I'm saying is he is overrated and not worth 40m, at 30m I'd just about take him! At anything above that I'd rather Watkins at 20m to 25m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Philosopher said: Where did I say he was shite, what I'm saying is he is overrated and not worth 40m, at 30m I'd just about take him! At anything above that I'd rather Watkins at 20m to 25m. You would prefer an older more unproven striker for 5 million less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philosopher Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 21 minutes ago, holteend1982 said: Rashford has played 30+ games for the past 4 seasons and has never got 20 goals Rashford has been shoe horned out the the left for most of that. He also has terrifying pace, excellent dribbler and takes set pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted August 7, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 7, 2020 18 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: I just can't see what players we could have Brentford would be keen on, that also would be interested in a switch. Our youngsters that are good enough for some Championship rotation, will only go on loan, and there's no point to that for Brentford. They are just too good of a club atm. Davis maybe? Would be a mistake to let him go permanent IMO. davis definitely. i think everyone is unanimous that he needs to go on loan for a season but player swap deals just dont happen much these days, unless the agent of all players involved is the same as the agents of the players going the other way miss out on their slice of the deal think it was the case with the jota/gardner deal that it was basically a swap but went through as 2 separate deals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philosopher Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Zatman said: You would prefer an older more unproven striker for 5 million less Year older, scored same amount of goals as Tammy did for us in championship and has a better allround game. It would have to save us more than 5 million,l. I believe Watkins would cost less than 25m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WakefieldVillan Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Knutserov13 said: My take on Benrahma. Hes a really fine player. A good creative one. Probably one thats gonna be MoM one week and not to be seen the other. Problem for me is that he plays the same position as Jack. There is no way hes better than Jack in that position. Ok, you say - Easy, we'll move Jack to the middle. I'll be totally against that, why move your best player from the position where he creates chances and scoring goals? To play Jack in the middle there is no balance in the team with McGinn and Luiz. McGinn would in that case have to convert into a DCM, is he any good at that role? If Jack plays through the middle I guess we´ll have to bench McGinn and sign a new midfielder? But, IF Jack goes I'm all for signing Benrahma. Doesn't make a difference for me. We need quality players in, mainly wingers/wide forwards and a centre forward and Benrahma fits the bill (for the right price). Players get injured. We need to have a better squad. But we need to improve the starting eleven (which filters down the squad). There's other options of course, Sarr, Rashica, Brooks, Buendia all would improve our first team. For all the heroics of Trez late on in the season with the goals and on stats alone El Ghazi's aren't too shabby - they were clearly weaknesses in our team and so many times the play just fizzled out when they got on the ball. A new quality front three (whether Jack be played on the left or as an 8 or 10) it would see us finish comfortably mid table. As for Tammy, he misses chances, he gets chances, but he scores goals, he's quick, tall - good for defending & attacking set pieces, works hard, he has confidence in his own ability, he obviously has a connection with the club - I'd have him back all day long. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philosopher Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 minute ago, tomav84 said: davis definitely. i think everyone is unanimous that he needs to go on loan for a season but player swap deals just dont happen much these days, unless the agent of all players involved is the same as the agents of the players going the other way miss out on their slice of the deal think it was the case with the jota/gardner deal that it was basically a swap but went through as 2 separate deals Firstly I think this Brentford poster is a VTer in disguise. But sending Davis on loan the other way would suit us fine and Brentford would get a good backup striker. Would probably knock 1 or 2m of the transfer fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Sarr, Benrahma, Watkins, Grealish. Thats the front 4. That’s the front 4 right there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummybloke Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Cant see el ghazi going out unless a sale. Cant see davis going out unless its on loan. Cant see Brentford being interested in either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, WakefieldVillan said: Doesn't make a difference for me. We need quality players in, mainly wingers/wide forwards and a centre forward and Benrahma fits the bill (for the right price). Players get injured. We need to have a better squad. But we need to improve the starting eleven (which filters down the squad). There's other options of course, Sarr, Rashica, Brooks, Buendia all would improve our first team. For all the heroics of Trez late on in the season with the goals and on stats alone El Ghazi's aren't too shabby - they were clearly weaknesses in our team and so many times the play just fizzled out when they got on the ball. A new quality front three (whether Jack be played on the left or as an 8 or 10) it would see us finish comfortably mid table. As for Tammy, he misses chances, he gets chances, but he scores goals, he's quick, tall - good for defending & attacking set pieces, works hard, he has confidence in his own ability, he obviously has a connection with the club - I'd have him back all day long. The issue was they got very little support from midfield or upfront. They aren't at the standard we need but I would say they could be average Premier league wingers with other clubs. Out striker nor our midfielders helped them in the middle it is no wonder they struggled when they had to beat 3 men on their own. If Jack moves back into the middle he will give them a lot of help and our wingers would be far more effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Philosopher said: Rashford has been shoe horned out the the left for most of that. He also has terrifying pace, excellent dribbler and takes set pieces. So has Mane, Salah, Sterling , Aubameyang , averaging 10 goals a season is fine for a player at villa, but in tops sides in a front 3 you should be in touching distance of 20 goals, just because your not playing down the middle is not an excuse in this day and age Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Sarr, Benrahma, Watkins, Grealish. Thats the front 4. That’s the front 4 right there. Not a fan of sarr personally. I think Saint-maximan would be available for a similar price given mark Ashley is still the owner. Rashica has a buy out clause for how much sarr would cost. There are many better deals than sarr in my opinion. Especially if Watford can't get up they will be in deep shit and he might go for cheaper the year after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted August 7, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 7, 2020 what about jota? ex brentford himself and out of favour at villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, nick76 said: I’d swop Watkins for Davis + cash in a heartbeat. Even as a winger Watkins scored more goals than Davis did as a striker. I thought you were going to let up on Davis. Accepting he needs to sort out his scoring, I really don't think he deserves such negativity. I'd say his coming back from injury in the lockdown contributed to us staying up. It wasn't everything, but it was definitely something. He was involved in some of the goals, and his general play made a difference. Having said that, he may benefit from a loan at a club where he'll play more and have a chance to get his confidence up. You'll disagree, because you have been relentless, but that would obviously involve extending his contract too. You don't, but I genuinely rate him. Others seem to rate him too. He can be a Prem player for sure, imo. We'd need to bring in another striker though if he went out on loan. Edited August 7, 2020 by Rolta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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