Keener window-cleaner Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 I'm still convinced that he is best as the holding DM in a midfield three, I think why he hasn't been as good this season is that he mostly has been playing in the mid two in a 4-2-3-1. It kind of brings the worst out of him. As the lone holding DM he is the one dictating play, the build up play goes through him, his exceptional technique, ability to keep the ball, solve tight situations, his passing and vision comes to it's best in that position. Defensively he is the anchor who reads and breaks up play terrificly. In a mid two in the 4-2-3-1 he gets restricted and becomes too static, the space to receive the ball gets too crowded. Defensively he needs to track back, follow his man and run towards our goal more compared to when he sits in front of the defence facing the opposition, those aren't his top qualities. All his best attributes gains playing him DM in a 4-3-3, all his less good attributes gets exploited in the 4-2-3-1. The 4-3-3 is also more dynamic, as it is now our play is mor or less pass it aound at the back and then let Mings kick it long. Compare that to the end of last season and the build up play we had, with DS screaming "Dougie Dougie" every time we started an attack. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The_Steve Posted April 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 9, 2021 Great interview with him in the Guardian today 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 8 hours ago, The_Steve said: Great interview with him in the Guardian today Nice interview. Easy to forget when the booboys are getting on his case that he’s only 22. Youngest member of the regular starting team in a critical position. He’s not been at his best lately and wouldn’t be in my starting lineup this weekend but he’s going to be some player in a few years. Nice to have kids like him and Ramsey in and around the team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 On 04/04/2021 at 18:30, Keener window-cleaner said: I'm still convinced that he is best as the holding DM in a midfield three, I think why he hasn't been as good this season is that he mostly has been playing in the mid two in a 4-2-3-1. It kind of brings the worst out of him. As the lone holding DM he is the one dictating play, the build up play goes through him, his exceptional technique, ability to keep the ball, solve tight situations, his passing and vision comes to it's best in that position. Defensively he is the anchor who reads and breaks up play terrificly. In a mid two in the 4-2-3-1 he gets restricted and becomes too static, the space to receive the ball gets too crowded. Defensively he needs to track back, follow his man and run towards our goal more compared to when he sits in front of the defence facing the opposition, those aren't his top qualities. All his best attributes gains playing him DM in a 4-3-3, all his less good attributes gets exploited in the 4-2-3-1. The 4-3-3 is also more dynamic, as it is now our play is mor or less pass it aound at the back and then let Mings kick it long. Compare that to the end of last season and the build up play we had, with DS screaming "Dougie Dougie" every time we started an attack. Agree with all of that but per my post just now - he’s only 22 and it will benefit him long term to learn to play in either system. And my autocorrect almost made that ‘play in either sister’ which is an interesting thought. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 Completely gone to shit Not sure if he's given up or lost form (again) or low on confidence (again) He's a nothing player right now, not doing anything either side of the ball, misplaces so many easy passes 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 I actually thought he played well today, from about 30 mins onwards 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich192 Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 Yeah he had his best game for a while today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 Luiz was the better out of our midfielders Id be suprised if city come in for him this summer though as he has not hig the heights of last summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted April 10, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted April 10, 2021 So much better when he doesn't play as a dm and it showed today. His best game in a while. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 Better for not having to worry about McGinn next to him. More comfortable with Nakamba next to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: Luiz was the better out of our midfielders Id be suprised if city come in for him this summer though as he has not hig the heights of last summer If the buy back clause is too cheap they won't care. Loan him out for a season to Spain again or just make a profit with a loan to buy, they have a few options but I think they try and get him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 Yes I thought he did ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smg Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Going through the motions, probably been told by his agent City aren’t interested and is comfortable with his contract here so is more concerned with his internet profile and his haircut for the rest of the season than playing at his best. Sadly we have Trez out injured who has far less talent but works his arse off and Douglas who could be a real player but has his priorities elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 45 minutes ago, smg said: Going through the motions, probably been told by his agent City aren’t interested and is comfortable with his contract here so is more concerned with his internet profile and his haircut for the rest of the season than playing at his best. Sadly we have Trez out injured who has far less talent but works his arse off and Douglas who could be a real player but has his priorities elsewhere. I don’t think it’s that. He was nearly substituted for an injury but desperate to stay on. He is struggling for confidence and form like many in the team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 7 hours ago, smg said: Going through the motions, probably been told by his agent City aren’t interested and is comfortable with his contract here so is more concerned with his internet profile and his haircut for the rest of the season than playing at his best. Sadly we have Trez out injured who has far less talent but works his arse off and Douglas who could be a real player but has his priorities elsewhere. I don’t get that feeling about him at all. I suspect that it is just age/experience acting as a barrier to consistent form at the moment. That and the lack of quality alongside him. Put him in a midfield three alongside Bissouma and Grealish and he will find his consistency. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 10 hours ago, smg said: Going through the motions, probably been told by his agent City aren’t interested and is comfortable with his contract here so is more concerned with his internet profile and his haircut for the rest of the season than playing at his best. Sadly we have Trez out injured who has far less talent but works his arse off and Douglas who could be a real player but has his priorities elsewhere. What a crock of shit. Why are you making this nonsense up? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 10 hours ago, smg said: Going through the motions, probably been told by his agent City aren’t interested and is comfortable with his contract here so is more concerned with his internet profile and his haircut for the rest of the season than playing at his best. Sadly we have Trez out injured who has far less talent but works his arse off and Douglas who could be a real player but has his priorities elsewhere. Yes I get the feeling hes just going through the motions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smg Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 57 minutes ago, lexicon said: What a crock of shit. Why are you making this nonsense up? It’s a forum , it’s where you post opinions, that’s mine, just because you have a different opinion doesn’t make it a croc of shit or nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 28 minutes ago, PaulC said: Yes I get the feeling hes just going through the motions I think he is too but I wouldn't go as far as to say the other things Its just that kind of a season, it's done, we can't go down, we won't be qualifying for Europe, he's hit cruise control, lacking motivation, not even got Brazil international call ups to perform for, he's playing for nothing The man City stuff and the hair cuts stuff is bollocks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 18 minutes ago, smg said: It’s a forum , it’s where you post opinions, that’s mine, just because you have a different opinion doesn’t make it a croc of shit or nonsense. Yes and my opinion is that it's unsubstantiated bollocks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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