brummybloke Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Looks unfit, is slow, cant defend, offers very little going forwards slows down play when we aren't exactly fast anyway, lacks positional discipline, repeatedly passes it backwards when there are several options open, swans around like hes brilliant yet has been in pretty much all but a childs handful of games, below par. As mentioned. He seems to be given unicorn credit due to being from Brazilian, if he was from the uk he would be slated. People need to cut out the excuses for the half arsed lazy bottling performances he puts in when ever he starts. He needs to be on the bench learning this season, unfortunately we have lumped far too much on him too quick. Maybe if he had the odd start and mainly sub appearances I wouldn't be so harsh on him but he has from being one of my most hoped for promising players to being the one who I keep more of an eye on and notice just how bad he generally has been. That's down to our recruitment not protecting the younger ones by having an older bully in their to guide them. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Thought he played really well, but I get the impression he's protecting his body slightly for his next career move. I'd like to see him up his intensity a bit. In terms of footballing ability and calmness under pressure he is really, really good - especially for his age. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted March 1, 2020 Author Share Posted March 1, 2020 Just now, KentVillan said: Thought he played really well, but I get the impression he's protecting his body slightly for his next career move. I'd like to see him up his intensity a bit. In terms of footballing ability and calmness under pressure he is really, really good - especially for his age. He has confidence alright, at times it is a liability. His ‘no look’ passes and attempts to turn a player when in a risky position have cost us at times. I like him, I think he has a class about him but he is also frustrating. He’s a young player who needs space to develop but unfortunately we are relying on him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kiwivillan Posted March 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, R.Bear said: I actually thought he was our best player today. Me too. Voted him MotM. Most go forward, won a few 50 50s played attacking balls. Only one to close down Foden shot after free kick. Was screaming at teammates for not doing the same. Not sure how anyone can watch that game and not rate him 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Just now, LondonLax said: He has confidence alright, at times it is a liability. His ‘no look’ passes and attempts to turn a player when in a risky position have cost us at times. I like him, I think he has a class about him but he is also frustrating. He’s a young player who needs space to develop but unfortunately we are relying on him. Agree with all of this. I'm not saying he's perfect by any means. I just think he has way more potential than anyone else we've signed (with the possible exception of Louie Barry maybe). Starting him in a cup final was a brave move from Smith, and ultimately I thought it worked out pretty well for him. We weren't carved open through the middle, as we have been at other times this season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WooJung Posted March 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2020 Funny how divided the general opinion is on him, I thought he was one of our best players, he covered lots of ground and was always asking for the ball and mostly moved it very well. There's a proper player there, let's keep in mind he's just a few days younger than O'Hare. Kept a cool head in a big pressure game against top oppisition. Hope he finds more consistency in his performances. He will benefit massively if we revert to a 3 man midfield. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay.P.A Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Put him next to Nakamba and a fully fit, confident McGinn and our midfield will be so much better. Only 2 weeks to go before McGinn is back. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Just now, Jay.P.A said: Put him next to Nakamba and a fully fit, confident McGinn and our midfield will be so much better. Only 2 weeks to go before McGinn is back. I think you are right but what about Drinkwater? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay.P.A Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: I think you are right but what about Drinkwater? Think he was a replacement for McGinn, and a gamble. It hasn't paid off so far but he still has a part to play. He'll be our 4th choice DCM/CM along with Hourihane so will be rotated with Nakamba, Luiz and McGInn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdman Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 He wasn't bad, just not great either. Seems to struggle to make an impact which is what the expectation is. To be fair the whole team were on the back foot most of the game playing with a bit too much fear at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCDAN Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 He's been mediocre at best for me. You have to accept that every player can't be a superstar but he doesn't particularly excel at any part of the game in such a crucial position on the field. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 8 hours ago, AVFCDAN said: He's been mediocre at best for me. You have to accept that every player can't be a superstar but he doesn't particularly excel at any part of the game in such a crucial position on the field. I thought I was in the Hourihane thread for a second Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vreitti Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 5 hours ago, Kiwivillan said: I thought I was in the Hourihane thread for a second TBH there's not much of a difference, from an impact point of view. One could even argue Hourihane has had a bigger impact. Granted Luiz's got more potential, but I doubt we'll be reaping the benefit anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 3 hours ago, vreitti said: TBH there's not much of a difference, from an impact point of view. One could even argue Hourihane has had a bigger impact. Granted Luiz's got more potential, but I doubt we'll be reaping the benefit anytime soon. Luiz is light years ahead of Hourihane. It's not even remotely close. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 54 minutes ago, lexicon said: Luiz is light years ahead of Hourihane. It's not even remotely close. Disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 I am starting to change my mind on him. He has potential and I think he is improving. But Villa are running out of time for this side to gel as in fairness most of it was chucked together last summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Laughable Chimp said: Disagree We'll see who has the better career. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 44 minutes ago, lexicon said: We'll see who has the better career. That'd be down to potential, not current ability. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Laughable Chimp said: That'd be down to potential, not current ability. Even current ability - he's keeping Hourihane out of the side for a reason and let's not forget he got a full Brazil cap this season too. He gets involved far more, offers options, isn't shy of making a challenge, can also score goals... and he's only 21. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 (edited) 53 minutes ago, lexicon said: Even current ability - he's keeping Hourihane out of the side for a reason and let's not forget he got a full Brazil cap this season too. He gets involved far more, offers options, isn't shy of making a challenge, can also score goals... and he's only 21. And Wesley got a cap at the same time. I still don't think that made him good. Smith also choose to give Drinkwater a couple of starts over Luiz, did that mean Drinkwater was better than Luiz? People can disagree with the manager's opinion on players youu know. They're both liable to be passengers for our teams so involved far more is a stretch and last I checked, Luiz successful tackle rate is 1 per game so not shy of making a challenge is pushing it. Conor can score goals too, he's actually 4 times better at it than Luiz in terms of minutes per goal just in the league itself. And also 4 times better in minutes per assist too. And this is before i include the amount of times he's been directly at fault for us conceding a goal. His age just indicates his potential, not his current ablity. Not that I'm even ranking Conor over Luiz at this point, I just disagree with the idea that he's miles ahead of him. Edit: Ah, I looked at Luiz's overall stats instead of juust 2019-20. Conor is 2 times better at goalscoring and 2 times the better assister after adjusting for that. Edited March 3, 2020 by Laughable Chimp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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