HalfTimePost Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, MSvillain said: I don't believe that we haven't tried to give him a new contract considering how proactive we've been with others , so I'm guessing he's not that bothered about sticking around long term. It could also be he wants more wages or assurances than we can give him. Let's say he's on £60k a week now and he wants £100k, we may just want to ensure he's at that level, or go back and say look £80k is the level and not overpay. Or he wants assurances he'll be played as an 8 and not spending 20 games a season as a 6 when he's better further forward. He seems content enough, he's actively come out last summer and said he's happy here, it doesnt necessarily mean he's leaving. It seems most likely but there could easily be other things in play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) Who knows? We’ll just have to wait and see. None of us know what’s gone on, it’s just speculation. I just hope we manage to keep him here for the long term. If he does want to leave (no idea if this is the case, seen no indication) then I hope we get a decent fee but in that case I would find it sad and I’m sure he’s going to thrive wherever he goes. There will be regret but we’d just have to move on. All we can do is see how this pans out but the fact he’s been playing regularly may suggest we want to keep him here. Edited January 26, 2022 by Jas10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdman Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 18 minutes ago, Jas10 said: I think it’s obvious from Gerard’s comments that we are pursuing a DM and an upgrade in that department. Will be a huge help to us if we can get it sorted. I’m looking forward to seeing Dougie play further forward too though I have appreciated his performances further back, he was amazing during lockdown in our survival season. Has a lot of ability, we need to get the best out of him and let him shine. A few more of these please Superb passing range, makes it look easy: He helped Brazil to Olympic victory and is a big part of their future, a regular in the national team. This is not a mediocre player by any means, we’d regret letting him go. As SG said, he’s got higher gears to reach (been restricted by the role he had had to play for us) and I hope that happens here. Worth remembering his contribution to us. I’m personally sick of the incessant slating of our key players. 100%. I'm a big fan of Dougie so hope we can keep him. But it's probably the same people who have immediately written off Leon Bailey because he's injured. We need all of these players. It's called a squad! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I’ve said it before and I’ll say again. Dougie ain’t going anywhere! I hope you’re right but do you have any insight on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turvontour Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 24 minutes ago, Jas10 said: I think it’s obvious from Gerard’s comments that we are pursuing a DM and an upgrade in that department. Will be a huge help to us if we can get it sorted. I’m looking forward to seeing Dougie play further forward too though I have appreciated his performances further back, he was amazing during lockdown in our survival season. Has a lot of ability, we need to get the best out of him and let him shine. A few more of these please Superb passing range, makes it look easy: He helped Brazil to Olympic victory and is a big part of their future, a regular in the national team. This is not a mediocre player by any means, we’d regret letting him go. As SG said, he’s got higher gears to reach (been restricted by the role he had had to play for us) and I hope that happens here. Worth remembering his contribution to us. I’m personally sick of the incessant slating of our key players. He desperately needs a goal, particularly now if he is on free kick duty? Think all his goals came in a few month spell a couple of years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, Jas10 said: I hope you’re right but do you have any insight on this? Not really. I just know he’s very happy at the club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MSvillain Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, HalfTimePost said: It could also be he wants more wages or assurances than we can give him. Let's say he's on £60k a week now and he wants £100k, we may just want to ensure he's at that level, or go back and say look £80k is the level and not overpay. Or he wants assurances he'll be played as an 8 and not spending 20 games a season as a 6 when he's better further forward. He seems content enough, he's actively come out last summer and said he's happy here, it doesnt necessarily mean he's leaving. It seems most likely but there could easily be other things in play. Yeah that's true, that wasn't me getting on his back, hope he stays long term! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Arsenal got the London pull. I think it depends how fast we progress under Gerrard. Don't think we can afford another mid table season if we want to keep our best players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted January 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 26, 2022 Is it obvious I'm having a shit day? 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Just now, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Is it obvious I'm having a shit day? Sorry if I came across as condescending buddy. Let's just agree to disagree on this one, we both like Bailey at least 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Is it obvious I'm having a shit day? I agreed with a fair bit if what you wrote, even if it came from a bad day-induced mood. He himself has said he prefers to play further forward. SG has reiterated the same point. SG said he's playing his where he is due to an injury to Nakamba. Luiz has said he hopes to learn some things by playing a deeper role than he would like, which will make him a better all round footballer. It's clear that there is no unrest. And that Luiz still wants to play further forward. My expectation is that the contract delays are down to where the club sees his future role. Maybe he wants assurances he'll be given a role further forward in the future, but the club can't offer that given the players we have coming through in that position. Maybe the signing of Coutinho would give him more of a reason to stay and sign an extension. He's got a very high ceiling and I hope we get to see it reached while he's playing for us, otherwise I expect we'll get way more than we paid for him in return. Let's all chill and enjoy the ride. Edited January 26, 2022 by MrBlack Typos 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 I think he will be sold if a good offer comes in for him. Its crazy he hasnt been offered a new contract with only 18 months left. For me its a mistake selling him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 16 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Is it obvious I'm having a shit day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 23 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Is it obvious I'm having a shit day? I mostly just vent on here and make bad jokes then feel guilty about it, so don’t worry 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 29 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Arsenal got the London pull. I think it depends how fast we progress under Gerrard. Don't think we can afford another mid table season if we want to keep our best players. Well apparently Martinez was off if we finished midtable this season…. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 The comments and quotes lead me to believe that possibly the club don't think he's performing at the levels he should be? They clearly like him and rate him, they just didn't seem to come across too complimentary in my view. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Well apparently Martinez was off if we finished midtable this season…. Grealish signed a new contract just over a year ago. It doesn't mean anything. All it means is we get premium money if someone come for him. Edited January 26, 2022 by villalad21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Grealish signed a new contract just over a year ago. It doesn't mean anything. All it means is we get premium money if someone come for him. And that’s fine as long as the money is fully reinvested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: The comments and quotes lead me to believe that possibly the club don't think he's performing at the levels he should be? They clearly like him and rate him, they just didn't seem to come across too complimentary in my view. Yeh it’s not often a manager says a player has been ‘ok’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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