PaulC Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Depends what he comes back like. He offered a lot just before that injury against Liverpool. If Bailey and Traore got fit and stated firing I think he will be suplus to requirements though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lochheads twin Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 As normal, there is a wide range of opinions on many players and Trez is certainly one of those. For what it is worth, I think we have missed him as an option, especially when things were not going well through the autumn. He does not have the effortless ability of Traore to glide past defenders but he does chip in with useful goals.He works harder than any of the other wide options, on either wing and I am sure Cash would prefer to have him playing in front of him to give some semblance of protection. I hope his recovery continues to progress as he is a valuable member of the squad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 16 hours ago, It's Your Round said: Tis brilliant to see Trez coming back. He’s one hell of a workhorse and has scored some crucial goals for us. He just seems like a really good lad too. I’d back him to mow your lawn for you if you asked him to. And he wouldn’t want paying. He can be our Dirk Kuyt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 5 hours ago, MrBlack said: Is he a bit Dirk Kuyt? Maybe Gerrard will find a use for him like Liverpool did with Dirk. 1 hour ago, Zatman said: He can be our Dirk Kuyt 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 7, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted December 7, 2021 Unfortunately he's nowhere near as good as Dirk Kuyt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouUnastanFren Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 I feel like the only role I can imagine him being useful for in this set up is if he's converted into a RB as competition for Cash like how Young was at United. We have so many better players for the wings/CAM spots on both sides. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 18 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Unfortunately he's nowhere near as good as Dirk Kuyt Can't say i ever rated Kuyt as an outsider to Liverpool, even though like every player he scored plenty vs us. One of those workhorse players that always happened to be in the right place at the right time. In retrospect that's quite a skill to have, but Trez seems to share that trait. Scores vital goals, isn't prolific (1 in 4 for kuyt in a high flying Liverpool team vs 1 in 6 for trez for us), runs about a lot. They're pretty similar. Admittedly, Kuyt was technically better, but the point is he would play a similar role. And a number of players have already demonstrated a step up under Gerrard... Trez may well so the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 7, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted December 7, 2021 15 minutes ago, MrBlack said: Can't say i ever rated Kuyt as an outsider to Liverpool, even though like every player he scored plenty vs us. One of those workhorse players that always happened to be in the right place at the right time. In retrospect that's quite a skill to have, but Trez seems to share that trait. Scores vital goals, isn't prolific (1 in 4 for kuyt in a high flying Liverpool team vs 1 in 6 for trez for us), runs about a lot. They're pretty similar. Admittedly, Kuyt was technically better, but the point is he would play a similar role. And a number of players have already demonstrated a step up under Gerrard... Trez may well so the same. Playing a similar role doesn't make them the same in ability. Trez works very hard, but ability wise Kuyt was far far better 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 Got a game in on Monday. Anyone know how he got on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 On 07/12/2021 at 19:31, MrBlack said: Can't say i ever rated Kuyt as an outsider to Liverpool, even though like every player he scored plenty vs us. One of those workhorse players that always happened to be in the right place at the right time. In retrospect that's quite a skill to have, but Trez seems to share that trait. Scores vital goals, isn't prolific (1 in 4 for kuyt in a high flying Liverpool team vs 1 in 6 for trez for us), runs about a lot. They're pretty similar. Admittedly, Kuyt was technically better, but the point is he would play a similar role. And a number of players have already demonstrated a step up under Gerrard... Trez may well so the same. Nah Kuyt was grossly underrated if I'm honest. Great and hardworking player. The James Miller.of strikers IMO. Not flashy enough to get noticed, but highly consistent and effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 48 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Got a game in on Monday. Anyone know how he got on? Scored penalty. Davis scored 3rd to make it 3-1 but final result was 3-3 vs Bluenoses 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjackle Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 (edited) Guardian have him down as Villas player who needs a Jan move. References his game this week and the fact he hasn't been in the first team. He may well need a move but the writer of the article seems oblivious to the fact he has had a major injury.... Edited December 8, 2021 by maxjackle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_eristic Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, maxjackle said: Guardian have him down as Villas player who needs a Jan move. References his game this week and the fact he hasn't been in the first team. He may well need a move but the writer of the article seems oblivious to the fact he has has a major injury.... Yeah, January would be too soon. I can see one of the big Turkish clubs being interested in Summer if he can prove his fitness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 Nobody knows yet how he could potentially fit in under gerrard. He could actually improve as he still has time on his side and plenty of good character about him. I think he'll stay. I don't see us letting him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 I think he has a super sub profile about him. Scores big goals when you most need it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icarium Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 7 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I think he has a super sub profile about him. Scores big goals when you most need it. Honestly, while that has been his past with us, I see his future as almost the opposite. Gerard wants the forward line to press, I think his work rate would make him great at that. Then after tiring out the defenders after 60-70 mins, set bailey loose on them (assuming his hamstrings don't fall off) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancvillan Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 He's the kind of player that if someone else had him and bought him on in a game against us, we'd be moaning that "we don't have any of that kind of sub that always seems to pop up with an important goal". I think he suffers from being decent enough but looking like he doesn't know what his feet are doing half the time. Kind of like how Micheal Johnson ran like he had a rod up him. Doesn't look right but gets the job done. Unless he actively wants to leave for more first team football or his injury has ruined him, I'd say keep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Vancvillan said: He's the kind of player that if someone else had him and bought him on in a game against us, we'd be moaning that "we don't have any of that kind of sub that always seems to pop up with an important goal". I think he suffers from being decent enough but looking like he doesn't know what his feet are doing half the time. Kind of like how Micheal Johnson ran like he had a rod up him. Doesn't look right but gets the job done. Unless he actively wants to leave for more first team football or his injury has ruined him, I'd say keep. I'd be more like, 'We even let that guy score. We must be shit!' He's not once looked good enough for this league as anything other than an uber defensive winger. If he can show otherwise under Gerrard, then great, but for me it appears that he's not quick enough nor good enough and gives the ball away too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Rolta said: I'd be more like, 'We even let that guy score. We must be shit!' He's not once looked good enough for this league as anything other than an uber defensive winger. If he can show otherwise under Gerrard, then great, but for me it appears that he's not quick enough nor good enough and gives the ball away too much. How does a player like that manage to score against the likes of Liverpool, Chelsea and Leicester? Must be easy this Premier League lark. On a serious note I don’t think he is good enough for us but to suggest he’s not good enough for the league is a bit harsh. He’s goals kept us up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Just now, Vive_La_Villa said: How does a player like that manage to score against the likes of Liverpool, Chelsea and Leicester? Must be easy this Premier League lark. On a serious note I don’t think he is good enough for us but to suggest he’s not good enough for the league is a bit harsh. He’s goals kept us up! He kicked it in the net after harder and better work by better players. His goals might have kept us up, but also having him as one of our main wingers was part of the reason we were at risk of being relegated. His goals can't cover up he did pretty much literally nothing else positive of note and gave the ball away all the time. He and Samatta in attack was a shortcut to giving the opposition the ball. He tried hard though, and I respect that. And the goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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