Rolta Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Played really well. He's a good player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, TRO said: Watch it back.....arsenals crosses was raining in, from his side, he just stood off and turned his head......don't take my word, watch it back. Reading this I genuinely don't think you understand how back 4s stay compact. It happened both sides—you obviously try to stop the crosses, but good players get crosses in—but you can't leave massive gaps between the back 4, so they go side to side as a unit. When they switch to the other side, it's inevitable there's a gap. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Love his tweet, what a bloke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 14 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Great going forward. Defending scares the hell out of me. He's better at it when he gets some help from the wingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Rolta said: Reading this I genuinely don't think you understand how back 4s stay compact. It happened both sides—you obviously try to stop the crosses, but good players get crosses in—but you can't leave massive gaps between the back 4, so they go side to side as a unit. When they switch to the other side, it's inevitable there's a gap. Good full backs stop crosses too, its essential......when that ball comes in the middle, it becomes a lottery...... you cannot expect the centre backs to keep defending so many crosses, many more must be cut out at source. If I don't understand how back 4's work after watching the game for 60 years....I think i must have wasted a lot of season ticket money.....the gaps you talk about is covered by midfielders in such circumstances......but only one at any given time has to close down the crosser. He was piss poor tonight in closing his man down ....he did eventually go on both knees to stop the ball and conceded a free kick, but at least, he had a go, despite it being clumsy. for me.....too many came in unnecessarily. but thankfully, it ended well. Edited July 21, 2020 by TRO 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 His passing is so slick and crisp. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 He should be deployed as a winger next season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooJung Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 44 minutes ago, momo said: He should be deployed as a winger next season. Not sure that would work, I like my wingers to run at defenders and look like they could beat them. Targett doesn't have those attributes but is a good passer and crisser of the ball, works better as a full back or wingback 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, WooJung said: Not sure that would work, I like my wingers to run at defenders and look like they could beat them. Targett doesn't have those attributes but is a good passer and crisser of the ball, works better as a full back or wingback Agree. I think wingback is his best position. Like Marcus Alonso at Chelsea. Not the best in a 4 defensively but as a wingback he can have the license to attack. He is such an intelligent attacker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooJung Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Sulberto21 said: Agree. I think wingback is his best position. Like Marcus Alonso at Chelsea. Not the best in a 4 defensively but as a wingback he can have the license to attack. He is such an intelligent attacker. Possibly, yes, but I wouldn't sacrifice our formation to accommodate targett. I think he's OK defensively, not great, but passable, he's still quite young for a defender and hopefully with experience he can improve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 1 hour ago, TRO said: If I don't understand how back 4's work after watching the game for 60 years....I think i must have wasted a lot of season ticket money I always respect people admitting their shortcomings 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 59 minutes ago, momo said: He should be deployed as a winger next season. might as well as he wings it, at full back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Needs replacing. A soft ball. Not strong enough defensively. Very easily bullied. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 It's almost as if our fullbacks are instructed to tuck in really narrow and compact and then fan out when the ball goes wide. Do people really think Targett is that narrow because he doesn't understand the position? We aren't going man for man against Arsenal all over the pitch ffs. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 14 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: It's almost as if our fullbacks are instructed to tuck in really narrow and compact and then fan out when the ball goes wide. Do people really think Targett is that narrow because he doesn't understand the position? We aren't going man for man against Arsenal all over the pitch ffs. Rodders, mate, with all due respect, what do you, and Dean and Targett know? Villatalk tactical experts know everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 1 hour ago, rodders0223 said: It's almost as if our fullbacks are instructed to tuck in really narrow and compact and then fan out when the ball goes wide. Do people really think Targett is that narrow because he doesn't understand the position? We aren't going man for man against Arsenal all over the pitch ffs. We are talking about allowing so many crosses to come in to the box, unchallenged.......not going man to man with Arsenal all over the pitch. we can talk shapes and systems all day long but if we allow that amount of crosses to come in we will pay the consequences......last night the boys in the middle of the box were magnificent.....we won't always have that luxury of our centre backs being so on top of their game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV82 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 On 22/07/2020 at 08:13, rodders0223 said: It's almost as if our fullbacks are instructed to tuck in really narrow and compact and then fan out when the ball goes wide. Do people really think Targett is that narrow because he doesn't understand the position? We aren't going man for man against Arsenal all over the pitch ffs. Coinciding with us looking better at the back since the restart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 On 22/07/2020 at 10:04, TRO said: We are talking about allowing so many crosses to come in to the box, unchallenged.......not going man to man with Arsenal all over the pitch. we can talk shapes and systems all day long but if we allow that amount of crosses to come in we will pay the consequences......last night the boys in the middle of the box were magnificent.....we won't always have that luxury of our centre backs being so on top of their game. Examples include Liverpool (3 times), Chelsea both games, United (2-2 draw). And plenty more but I can't think of from the top of my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjvilla Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 On 21/07/2020 at 23:47, TRO said: Good full backs stop crosses too, its essential......when that ball comes in the middle, it becomes a lottery...... you cannot expect the centre backs to keep defending so many crosses, many more must be cut out at source. If I don't understand how back 4's work after watching the game for 60 years....I think i must have wasted a lot of season ticket money.....the gaps you talk about is covered by midfielders in such circumstances......but only one at any given time has to close down the crosser. He was piss poor tonight in closing his man down ....he did eventually go on both knees to stop the ball and conceded a free kick, but at least, he had a go, despite it being clumsy. for me.....too many came in unnecessarily. but thankfully, it ended well. If that was a free kick and a yellow card then we may aswell make it a non contact sport now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Just now, Mjvilla said: If that was a free kick and a yellow card then we may aswell make it a non contact sport now. I don't think it should have been but is was clumsy and untidy....that can attract yellows, from over zealous refs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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