Laughable Chimp Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 28 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: How many did El Ghazi miss Overall, not just in the video, not as many as people think he does. The worst finisher in our club is actually Wesley so far based on differences between xG and actual goals scored in the box. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa94 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 is there a case for playing him left midfield if a change of system came about, hes good on the ball and has a good cross.........suppose you would want 2 up top who are good in the air in that case?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 35 minutes ago, Villa94 said: is there a case for playing him left midfield if a change of system came about, hes good on the ball and has a good cross.........suppose you would want 2 up top who are good in the air in that case?????? Not sure about left midfield, but he would be a good left wing back if we ever went permanently to a back 3, which we probably won't tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 6 hours ago, Laughable Chimp said: Overall, not just in the video, not as many as people think he does. The worst finisher in our club is actually Wesley so far based on differences between xG and actual goals scored in the box. I do think Wesley is the worst finisher at the club, he has scored at premier level, we have players who have not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 14 hours ago, Laughable Chimp said: The worst finisher in our club is actually Wesley so far based on differences between xG and actual goals scored in the box. But El Ghazi is worse based on percentages. See why stats aren't perfect? Particularly when you 'quote' them without bothering to post the actual data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Sam-AVFC said: But El Ghazi is worse based on percentages. See why stats aren't perfect? Particularly when you 'quote' them without bothering to post the actual data. first off, no he isn't. Wesley's difference between xG and actual goals scroed over actual goals scored is still higher than El Ghazi's. Which means by this metric, he is a worse finisher. Secondly I don't think using percentages over absolute values is wise in this case. Mostly because it makes comparison between players with 0 goals impossible. You can't divide by 0 and many of our players have not scored yet. Lastly, I get all my stats for xG stuff from understat. I didn't link them because I'm on my phone but if you want to check it yourself, sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterw Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 its a meaningless stat as there are many variables that are unable to be considered. A one-on-one miss is not the same as a speculative 25 yard hit. Rounding the keeper and hitting the post is not the same as beating three players and having a defender lunging in to block a shot etc etc etc. Sometimes you can just use your eyes. I don't think El Ghazi has a bad shot on him but he isn't a finisher. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIVillan Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Targett has talent but as mentioned on here so many times is soft and lacks bottle. You realy need your backs to be able to dig in and even if being given a run around hang in there, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 On 14/07/2020 at 01:01, Hornso said: They were big misses too. Except the Palace clip every other game we were drawing or one down. El Ghazi in his defence was only player getting into the box but some poor misses alright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbcuk Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Dreadful defending for that goal tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 He is at fault so shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Yep. Caught ball watching and it’s probably cost us relegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_avfc Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Targett has to go down as the biggest waste of money of this season for me. Everton offered no threat at all and his lack of basic defensive ability costs us two massive points. How much did we pay for him again as he’s not a drastic improvement on Neil Taylor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khizzy Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Given our current problems, Targett should have been playing higher up the pitch with Taylor as the LB - not ideal but at least Taylor is able to defend and Targett can deliver a half decent cross unlike our other two main wingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Farlz Posted July 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 16, 2020 Matt Targett is the least of our problems and is far better than Neil Taylor. Get a grip man. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_avfc Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Farlz said: Matt Targett is the least of our problems and is far better than Neil Taylor. Get a grip man. We paid £15m for Matt Targett. If that’s not a sign of the wasted money over the summer then I don’t know what is. Defensively I think he’s worse than Taylor to be honest. Bottles challenges regularly and gets caught ball watching far too much.At £15m I’d be expecting a lot more than what we’re seeing. As for him being the least of our problems I’d argue he was the biggest of our many problems today. If he doesn’t make the mistake that gives Walcott a free header we wouldn’t have faced a shot on target all match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Yeah targett isnt a bad left nack at all but was a really poor defensive performance for the goal. I mwna your lettjng bloody walcott wim a header over you??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 33 minutes ago, Farlz said: Matt Targett is the least of our problems and is far better than Neil Taylor. Get a grip man. Can I marry you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_avfc Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 24 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Yeah targett isnt a bad left nack at all but was a really poor defensive performance for the goal. I mwna your lettjng bloody walcott wim a header over you??? He didn’t win the header over him. Targett got absolutely nowhere near him to even challenge him. If Walcott is being challenged at all for that header he doesn’t score it. Targett got caught ball watching (not for the first time this season) and it’s cost us big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 31 minutes ago, tom_avfc said: We paid £15m for Matt Targett. If that’s not a sign of the wasted money over the summer then I don’t know what is. Defensively I think he’s worse than Taylor to be honest. Bottles challenges regularly and gets caught ball watching far too much.At £15m I’d be expecting a lot more than what we’re seeing. As for him being the least of our problems I’d argue he was the biggest of our many problems today. If he doesn’t make the mistake that gives Walcott a free header we wouldn’t have faced a shot on target all match. I think it was a reported £11m fee we paid for him, I think he’s outstanding, when he links up with Grealish, it’s a joy to watch, we have scored quite a few goals courtesy of the Targett-Grealish combination 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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