osmark86 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 The "eye test" is subjective by nature. I would hazard a guess we're usually slightly less patient with our own players, so if we're putting more stock into that then all our players will probably be a little over-criticized. Targett is defo fine for where we are and probably where we'll likely be in the short term. He's not a poor player by any means imo. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 17 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Depends what exactly cross completion based on. If it was based on quality, then the players on the end of the crosses are poor. But I doubt it is. That's what the xA is for, and his xA is consistently above his actual Assists, suggesting it is in fact players not finishing his chances. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 14 minutes ago, MaVilla said: we can waffle about pass completion, cross completion, or any other stat we want, but the eye test will tell anyone that targett is a very limited player going forward, well....maybe not completely limited, but defo not suited to a very attacking full back role where he is expected to be up and down the pitch and highly mobile, and a core part of providing width and wide threat. Yes stats are very important, but football is a game where stats must be used in conjunction with the "eye test". He a) isnt mobile enough, b) too static, and c) isnt that good at doing things while progressing the ball (ie: if you watch him, he completes a LOT of his actions standing still, he isnt good at moving AND doing things with the ball). I knew the "eye test" would get brought up, I would've put money on it if I could. I use the "eye test" too, from watching Targett I happen to think he's quite a good full back that is unfairly maligned on here, the stats just back up my opinions on him, and my opinion of him is how I knew I could find him performing well in those stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 I don’t get the hate Targett gets at times. He can be absolutely quality on his day. I’m not pro him being “replaced”, but I do think Digne is better but I’d want both so that they both have competition and stay on their toes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 I wonder if Newcastle might come in for Targett if we sign Digne, they're desperate for a left-back, have been playing Ritchie their recently. Not that I'd want us to sell, I'm not even sure if we desperately need to replace him as it is, although can understand us wanting a more attack minded player that will perhaps suit Gerrard's system better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Spoony said: I don’t get the hate Targett gets at times. He can be absolutely quality on his day. I’m not pro him being “replaced”, but I do think Digne is better but I’d want both so that they both have competition and stay on their toes There is no hate. He simply isn't good enough anymore. He lack the fundamentals like pace and athleticism to become a top fullback. Happy for him to be a squad man but the buck stops there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCollins29 Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 I'm hoping today's rumour mill doesnt affect his mindset before tomorrow night 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted January 9, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, GingerCollins29 said: I'm hoping today's rumour mill doesnt affect his mindset before tomorrow night If anything it should have the opposite impact and he should try and have a stormer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 On 09/01/2022 at 05:27, osmark86 said: The "eye test" is subjective by nature. I would hazard a guess we're usually slightly less patient with our own players, so if we're putting more stock into that then all our players will probably be a little over-criticized. Targett is defo fine for where we are and probably where we'll likely be in the short term. He's not a poor player by any means imo. It's almost worthless considering many have predisposition about a player when conducting the eye test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, PieFacE said: If anything it should have the opposite impact and he should try and have a stormer. Agree, that sounds more like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Targett is OK as backup but, let's be honest, he is an average PL left back who hasn't managed to break into the England squad. We are replacing him with a player who has nearly 50 caps for France, has played for Barcelona, PSG and Roma and is rated as one of the best full backs in the division. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Made In Aston said: Targett is OK as backup but, let's be honest, he is an average PL left back who hasn't managed to break into the England squad. We are replacing him with a player who has nearly 50 caps for France, has played for Barcelona, PSG and Roma and is rated as one of the best full backs in the division. He’s above average, played very well last season and would say he was unlucky not to be close to the England set up. However, this season has been poor by last seasons standards. Tough as it is, I am glad the club is being ruthless in its pursuit of meaningful progress and pushing the standards everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Spoony said: I don’t get the hate Targett gets at times. He can be absolutely quality on his day. I’m not pro him being “replaced”, but I do think Digne is better but I’d want both so that they both have competition and stay on their toes We are desperate for depth and cover at fullback , with Kessler backing or competing with Cash now hopefully and the same with Dinge and Target on the opposite side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 2 hours ago, useless said: for Targett if we sign Digne, they're desperate for a left-back, have been playing Ritchie their recently. Not that I'd want us to sell, I'm not even sure if we desperately need to replace him as it is, although can understand us wanting a more attack minded player that will perhaps suit Gerrard's system An interesting idea. Newcastle could do a lot worse than Targett tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Think he’s off in the summer unless a good offer comes in this month. We’ll have a young understudy for Digne. Feels like he’s hit his ceiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Yeah I think he'll be first proper victim of Gerrard's ruthless edge. Someone most would keep around based on last season but get the feeling Gerrard has quickly concluded he isn't going to be good enough for where he wants to take us. Still mid 20s so should get our money back on him from somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 I know I've used this meme format before but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaVilla Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 The question I always ask myself is which team in the league would buy targett? That’s generally an indication of the quality of the player. Norwich, Newcastle and maybe watford? That pretty much tells you it’s time to sell him in the summer and get a higher ceiling younger back up for digne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, The_Steve said: Think he’s off in the summer unless a good offer comes in this month. We’ll have a young understudy for Digne. Feels like he’s hit his ceiling. Isn't Kesler RB? Edited January 10, 2022 by villalad21 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 3 hours ago, DakotaVilla said: The question I always ask myself is which team in the league would buy targett? That’s generally an indication of the quality of the player. Norwich, Newcastle and maybe watford? That pretty much tells you it’s time to sell him in the summer and get a higher ceiling younger back up for digne. Everton dont have a senior left back they would sign him, Leeds definitely. Is a few others that would be interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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