dont_do_it_doug. Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 9 minutes ago, A'Villan said: Agree with what you have identified. Having Mings and Tuanzebe has enabled an approach that allowed our strategy to take greater effect. So much so that I was hoping we would retain the services of both for this coming season, not to be. However the likes of Cahill would serve us much better than Jedinak at CB and I dare say Hause too, although perhaps Hause will continue to grow into the system. Cahill might not be a ball playing CB like Mings, Tuanzebe, Medel or Mascherano but at 33 I would definitely be open to giving him a one year contract. As what though? Back up? Because that is the role Jedinak played. It smacks of an old school signing. We'd have to adjust everything to accommodate him. It seems mad to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 (edited) Don't know where this notion of Cahill not being comfortable on the ball is coming from. He isn't bad at all. Never has been. All for forgetting about Cahill and getting say: Mings, Tomori and Konsa or Axel. That might cost 40m and leave less money for other players we desperately need. If that is the case, get Cahill on a free for 1 or 2 years, then get another top young defender next summer. Anyway. I've said my bit now. Edited June 6, 2019 by Mazrim 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 So with Tammy gone for good who the heck is going to score us some goals next season? If we get this wrong it could be a long hard slog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Cahill was one of the best defenders around and played for a champions league winning team. At 33 if he has been maintaining his fitness he would do a job for any top flight team I reckon. I’d be happy if we signed him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jareth said: So with Tammy gone for good Has he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Just now, Mazrim said: Has he? A farewell message on social media - and senor Trent has moved him to other football. Call me a pessimist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keener window-cleaner Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 (edited) Isn't Cahill one of the best defenders we've had when it comes to passing and being comfortable on the ball? I don't remember him as being slow either, at 33 or what he is I don't think he has lost too much of his speed if he has kept himself fit. I would very much like to have him back, just the memory of his overhead kick goal makes me want him back! The biggest worry for me is why he has been froozen out completely by Sarri though. Anyone know why? If it's because of injuries or if his legs are gone then it's a no-no. But otherwise as we are short of CB:s a one year contract is a no brainer for me if he would accept that. Edited June 6, 2019 by Keener window-cleaner 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaCas Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 2 hours ago, KentVillan said: Is he really a DCM though? A lot of people assume that ball playing CBs can play DCM, but then when you try them there it doesn't click. Seen it so many times. The two positions are a lot more different than people realise. I understand that the Chelsea development coaches see him eventually as a DCM. I’m not 100% sure but I think he started with Derby as LB and only dropped into CB to cover injury - I might be wrong with this I get the point that not many CBs can make the shift to DCM but he is a really accomplished footballer and I think he would do very well there 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 9 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: As what though? Back up? Because that is the role Jedinak played. It smacks of an old school signing. We'd have to adjust everything to accommodate him. It seems mad to me. We'd be a much stronger unit for having Cahill in our setup. I mention Jedinak because Tuanzebe has departed, that leaves us thin. Hopefully the Mings deal goes ahead. I don't know that having one defender of the caliber of Cahill would compromise our whole strategy and planning for how we want to play. If you think about it we made adjustments all season since Smith took over in October. Smith was still able to pull the strings to the tune of promotion, in commanding fashion. Mings, Grealish, Abraham and Tuanzebe were out at times, we made adjustments when changes were forced, and when they weren't, using Whelan or Hourihane in different games. Playing a slight variation on the setup seen at full strength, with the emphasis still on good build up and ball retention. We managed well. Cahill would be an asset, not a hindrance. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 18 minutes ago, Jareth said: A farewell message on social media - and senor Trent has moved him to other football. Call me a pessimist! Trent isn't the messiah you know... He is a very naughty boy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 22 minutes ago, Jareth said: So with Tammy gone for good who the heck is going to score us some goals next season? If we get this wrong it could be a long hard slog. Yeah it’s a bit concerning but let’s see what they come up with. Get it wrong and we are going straight back down make no mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 There are a lot of good strikers in the world. We need a few. I don't even know where to begin suggesting who. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Would love to see Cahill back at Villa as his experience would be vital. And dare I say it...Delph if he was available! We often need to forgive and forget in life so why not football? Signing those two players would be great for us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8pints Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 45 minutes ago, Jareth said: So with Tammy gone for good who the heck is going to score us some goals next season? If we get this wrong it could be a long hard slog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 32 minutes ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: Would love to see Cahill back at Villa as his experience would be vital. And dare I say it...Delph if he was available! We often need to forgive and forget in life so why not football? Signing those two players would be great for us. Delph would be quality squad addition. He could play at the DM role releasing McGinn and Grealish. Great feet, quick of thought. Watching him tonight though, he likes a backwards pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Jareth said: A farewell message on social media - and senor Trent has moved him to other football. Call me a pessimist! Pessimist 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 7 minutes ago, thunderball said: Delph would be quality squad addition. He could play at the DM role releasing McGinn and Grealish. Great feet, quick of thought. Watching him tonight though, he likes a backwards pass Very slippery as well, can weave through at ease. Can also detach jaw and swallow an Ostrich egg. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted June 6, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted June 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Jareth said: Very slippery as well, can weave through at ease. Can also detach jaw and swallow an Ostrich egg. Sounds like a gal I knew once 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 1 hour ago, VillaCas said: I understand that the Chelsea development coaches see him eventually as a DCM. I’m not 100% sure but I think he started with Derby as LB and only dropped into CB to cover injury - I might be wrong with this I get the point that not many CBs can make the shift to DCM but he is a really accomplished footballer and I think he would do very well there Wasn’t that our case with Tuanzebe though? Last season he came on as a RB. This season Bruce played him as a RB or a RCB in a back of 5. All if that because Bruce lacks courage in terms of giving young players their proper chances. Eventually we all saw how Axel was important to our system. What I’m saying is he would have stayed as a RB if we had another proper cb, ofcourse if we were under Bruce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMitch Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 1 hour ago, VillaCas said: I understand that the Chelsea development coaches see him eventually as a DCM. I’m not 100% sure but I think he started with Derby as LB and only dropped into CB to cover injury - I might be wrong with this I get the point that not many CBs can make the shift to DCM but he is a really accomplished footballer and I think he would do very well there Didn't play left back once for Derby this season. Didn't play DCM either. Played 52 games as a CB in his career so far. Zero as a LB, DCM, or CM. Don't know why you think he's not naturally a Central Defender. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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