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LondonLax Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 16 hours ago, Graham t said: Sorry 'London' I have never heard of the guy. Please educate me, I don't know everything,( I just think I do ). VLD. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law Quote Godwin's law (or Godwin's rule of Hitler analogies)[1][2] is an Internet adage asserting that "as an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1".[2][3] That is, if an online discussion (regardless of topic or scope) goes on long enough, sooner or later someone will compare someone or something to Adolf Hitler or his deeds, the point at which effectively the discussion or thread often ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: It really is bloody uncanny. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted July 15, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted July 15, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, bickster said: You just absolutely made my point for me. Thanks Again rubbish, again in my opinion, to add further clarity, none of those assassinations have been in America and none of them are involved with black activists. We had the same nonsense spouted when Barack Obama became president, he will never last term etc etc. Should a hierarchy of a BLM type movement become known they would be protected at the same level as a high-ranking US senator or even president given the current world sentiment. Yes there is a chance that some wacko might take a pop but the clever right-wing racist would never make the move because the martyrdom it would cause and the unsurmountable damage to their own agenda Also, because you say something does not make it fact or true. It is very easy to point score to a mainly on side audience Edited July 15, 2020 by Follyfoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 7 hours ago, Stevo985 said: How very patronsing of you, Tone. I thought you were better than that. Don't flatter yourself. There is no eagerness. Your post said Nobody has said this is the case. Your last line is Which isn't true. What part of your post have I failed to read that would make any difference? Having come home from work and gone for a run and cleared my head a bit , whilst I stand by some of my post it probably was a bit more aggressive than warranted so sorry about that . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted July 15, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted July 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Keyblade said: So they do happen then Please see the response I’ve just given to @bickster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham t Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 12 minutes ago, LondonLax said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law Well that was complicated. It even included a word I have never heard of (canonical ).... My anology may have been a bit clumsy but, as I have stressed, my point was you simply can't decide when and where to adhere to the law to suit your own particular feelings on any given day. Thanks for the link, Regards, VLD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 (edited) As has been stated in this thread many times. There was local feeling to bring it down democratically and it was always met with resistance. So they compromised and stated that it can stay up but it needs a plaque clarifying what awful things Colston was involved in too, including the slavery and deaths of children. The wording was agreed by a wide panel of representatives including those from the school named after Colston. What happened? A shady league called the Society of Merchant Venturers vetoed it alongside a Tory councillor and the wording was changed to remove any reference to slavery. It coming down, was a final frustration. As others have said, you mentioned Hitler, you must think the troops just following the law and executing German citizens hiding Jews etc were just doing what they were supposed to, and the protectors were breaking the law... Edited July 15, 2020 by StefanAVFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham t Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 A good post with some excellent points. I have mentioned earlier that my anology was clumsy. But. You simply can't ignore the law just because you don't think it is appropriate. If you do then you will have anarchy, and then what? Regards, VLD. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 15, 2020 Moderator Share Posted July 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Graham t said: and then what? Society changes for the better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, Graham t said: A good post with some excellent points. I have mentioned earlier that my anology was clumsy. But. You simply can't ignore the law just because you don't think it is appropriate. If you do then you will have anarchy, and then what? Regards, VLD. Good afternoon officer, yes, Ms Frank is hiding under my floorboards. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 15 minutes ago, Graham t said: I have mentioned earlier that my anology was clumsy. Clumsy? Outright bizarre, more like. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 50 minutes ago, Follyfoot said: Again rubbish, again in my opinion, to add further clarity, none of those assassinations have been in America and none of them are involved with black activists. We had the same nonsense spouted when Barack Obama became president, he will never last term etc etc. Does it count as an assassination if someone decides to plough a car into anti racism protesters or do they have to target a specific name? 54 minutes ago, Follyfoot said: Should a hierarchy of a BLM type movement become known they would be protected at the same level as a high-ranking US senator or even president given the current world sentiment. ... Also, because you say something does not make it fact or true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ChrisVillan Posted July 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2020 Full moon again so soon? 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 15, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted July 15, 2020 4 hours ago, Graham t said: Yes an interesting point of view. Whist it is okay to break the law and vandalise a statue to bring 'attention' to racism it is wrong for someone whose beliefs you disagree with to do the same? Has anyone said this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted July 15, 2020 Moderator Share Posted July 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Graham t said: A good post with some excellent points. I have mentioned earlier that my anology was clumsy. But. You simply can't ignore the law just because you don't think it is appropriate. If you do then you will have anarchy, and then what? Regards, VLD. Exactly. That's why every single relative of people who use cannabis to alleviate chronic pain also smoke lots of weed. Oh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Graham t said: Well that was complicated. It even included a word I have never heard of (canonical ).... My anology may have been a bit clumsy but, as I have stressed, my point was you simply can't decide when and where to adhere to the law to suit your own particular feelings on any given day. Thanks for the link, Regards, VLD. Voted Liberal Democrat? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 4 hours ago, Graham t said: You didn't mention Hitler........ VLD. Well, yeah. On the one hand, Rosa Parks committed civil disobedience by sitting at the front of the bus. On the other, Hitler committed civil disobedience during the Beer Hall Putsch. I guess we may need to apply some sort of moral framework to evaluate whether these were good or bad or something? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted July 16, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted July 16, 2020 Rosa Parks sat on the wrong bit of a bus and now 60 years later we're in a Mad Max dystopia where the lucky survive and the strong thrive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Graham t, do you fit tow bars? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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