rodders0223 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 They are going to take it to the last day in order to secure than "panic" tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 1 minute ago, rodders0223 said: They are going to take it to the last day in order to secure than "panic" tax. Well if it helps with FFP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 They are going to take it to the last day in order to secure than "panic" tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villabromsgrove Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, ender4 said: What if we bought two more CBs? Let's assume that Bournemouth know what they're doing and want to sell for the highest price .... If we go out and buy Webster and Philips alarm bells will start ringing at Deans Court. Bielsa saw Philips as a potential CB and spent a fair bit of time coaching and playing Philips as a CB in training matches. He's actually described as a CB and DM. If Bournemouth do want to sell Mings, that would put Villa in the driving seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 I don’t think our valuation of him will change. If they want more than we are offering then they will hold on to him until the last day and even then maybe just keep him as a squad player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 I think Bournemouth are ballsing this up from their end, they might want to look big but they are in a poor negotiation position. Nobody else seems interested in Mings and they have about 6 centre backs as it is. For them I cant see his valuation increasing if another season of him not playing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 I would say to both parties......s**t or get off the pan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 We have given a place for one of their players to prosper and he has done so. They seem to have little interest in him until we got some form from him....They negotiated a "matched deal" condition for a reason....they need to sort this out. Business is business of course, but this appears to be obstinance now......I hope we never loan another player off this club. Its clear he wants to continue his progress with us and they should do the honourable thing and do a deal with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praisedmambo Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, TRO said: We have given a place for one of their players to prosper and he has done so. They seem to have little interest in him until we got some form from him....They negotiated a "matched deal" condition for a reason....they need to sort this out. Business is business of course, but this appears to be obstinance now......I hope we never loan another player off this club. Its clear he wants to continue his progress with us and they should do the honourable thing and do a deal with us. You have no idea whatsoever what's going on, surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, praisedmambo said: You have no idea whatsoever what's going on, surely. No Idea whatsoever, is right. can you enlighten me? Edited July 5, 2019 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Most likely that Bournmouth are waiting till the very last moment all so they can see what offers are on the table, pick the best one and we have the option to counter it. Makes sense for Bournemouth to wait, it's highly annoying yes but it is what it is and hopefully Mings is our player at the end of the waiting. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 11 minutes ago, Dave-R said: Most likely that Bournmouth are waiting till the very last moment all so they can see what offers are on the table, pick the best one and we have the option to counter it. Makes sense for Bournemouth to wait, it's highly annoying yes but it is what it is and hopefully Mings is our player at the end of the waiting. I think this is the most likely scenario. Why rush something if you don't need to. If Bournemouth are aware of other interested parties they will sit until someone either drives the price up so we also increase our bid. Especially if they think they can squeeze the situation a little more. It could also backfire if nobody else comes in to drive up the price with them holding onto a player that is expecting to go. I think it's a no brainer that he wants to come here and I would also think that unless it was a top 5 - 6 club he wont want to go anywhere else. We just need to sit tight. It's the one signing I think that has to happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Is one reading too much into this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skruff Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Is he in a AFCB bomb squad? Doesn't seem to be training with them. Would assume it's just matter of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 1 hour ago, GENTLEMAN said: Is one reading too much into this? This account doesn't appear to be ITK at all just Villa related news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 6, 2019 Author Share Posted July 6, 2019 10 hours ago, Dave-R said: Most likely that Bournmouth are waiting till the very last moment all so they can see what offers are on the table, pick the best one and we have the option to counter it. Makes sense for Bournemouth to wait, it's highly annoying yes but it is what it is and hopefully Mings is our player at the end of the waiting. I would imagine that is exactly it. A very good theory. If another club makes a 20m off we have to .arch it. Stupid clause that was inserted. Why they never put a first option is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 35 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: I would imagine that is exactly it. A very good theory. If another club makes a 20m off we have to .arch it. Stupid clause that was inserted. Why they never put a first option is beyond me. Probably because Bournemouth wouldn't agree to a set fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, MaVilla said: Probably because Bournemouth wouldn't agree to a set fee. Which is annoying now because if we'd offered to stick £15-18m in it, they'd have accepted I reckon. We were probably playing around with £8-12m, which was sensible. Good lesson going forward for those clauses, not too damaging going a feather higher than appears fair. If you're in the situation they play a blinder, they'll likely have already exceeded the amount you stuck in. No obligation to buy if they don't perform. Edited July 6, 2019 by Tomaszk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 3 hours ago, Demitri_C said: I would imagine that is exactly it. A very good theory. If another club makes a 20m off we have to .arch it. Stupid clause that was inserted. Why they never put a first option is beyond me. We don’t have to match anything. Doesn’t matter what any other club offers unless Mings is willing to go there. bournemouth ‘we got an offer of £80m from Birmingham City, you have to match it.’ Villa: ‘**** off. Sell him to them.’ Bournemouth: ‘but he doesn’t want to go to that shithole.’ Villa: ‘Yh well, here’s £15m’ Forget this matching clause bull crap. it means nothing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Thug said: We don’t have to match anything. Doesn’t matter what any other club offers unless Mings is willing to go there. bournemouth ‘we got an offer of £80m from Birmingham City, you have to match it.’ Villa: ‘**** off. Sell him to them.’ Bournemouth: ‘but he doesn’t want to go to that shithole.’ Villa: ‘Yh well, here’s £15m’ Forget this matching clause bull crap. it means nothing. It really is the most stupid **** clause I can imagine*. It means, literally, nothing. *I'm sure this could be seen as a "hold my beer moment " for our incestuous neighbours in Small Heath. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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