VillaAlex Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 I would have took him off after 60 mins but in the second half he really pushed on especially after the red card. His cross towards the end was superb. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 18 minutes ago, villalad21 said: He isn't strong enough. I'd loan him in Jan and tell him to focus building up his strength. Because we don't have fitness and conditioning coaches at bodymoore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 minute ago, villa4europe said: Because we don't have fitness and conditioning coaches at bodymoore He need regular men's football. Vital part of a young player's development 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Ramsey played brilliant today and he gets the nod for the next game if Barkley isnt back. I dont understand why people are slating his performance, he played ace and did his duty.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheltenham_villa Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Great debut, lots of energy, didnt look out of place, always and option and I dont recall him losing the ball. Will he stay in for luiz? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 A decent premier league debut, wasn’t amazing but then I never expected that. He’ll have learnt a lot from today and he’ll develop much quicker with more game time. I wouldn’t be in a hurry to loan him out, he’s likely to be needed for the first team in the coming weeks. Well done lad! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, villalad21 said: He need regular men's football. Vital part of a young player's development So sending him to league 2 to get roughed up is better than him being around our first team squad every day and getting some minutes here and there? That's completely out dated 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerner's Driver Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 He did well, wasn't out of place at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Definitely a solid debut. He was actually in good positions a number of times and John and Douglas turned down a pass to him for some reason. Keeps his place for the next match if the other option is only Hourihane imo. Quality ball in at the end as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Not slating him. He didn't really do much to write about. I thought he looked comfortable on the ball and had some nice interplay but that moment he just got pushed off the ball and it caught us off balance could have punished us. He shouldn't be starting over Nakamba imo, yet. Give him 10 minutes here and 15 minutes there to start with. Throwing him in against Wolves is the wrong way to go imo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Lerner's Driver said: He did well, wasn't out of place at all. This. Looked like a PL footballer. More so than Hourihane dare I say. Edited December 12, 2020 by KenjiOgiwara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 I was excited to see him start but he didn't really look comfortable IMO. We either need to commit to giving him regular minutes or loan him out though, if we want him to develop he needs to be playing competitive football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Bang average. Which for a 19 year old midfielder playing his second ever game for a PL club, is nothing to sneeze at. Will withhold judgement of his overall quality until he's played some more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Some real cluelessness on display in this thread from usual suspects. Very promising full PL debut. He's calm in possession, good decision making - did exactly the right thing delaying his pass to run down the clock for the (very harsh) Moutinho red card. He'll get plenty of opportunities this season with the tight fixture schedule and our thin squad, so really no need to loan him out. Definitely needs to bulk up a bit, but that'll come with age. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerner's Driver Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: This. Looked like a PL footballer. More so than Hourihane dare I say. He was solid and for a kid that is no small achievement. He kept his focus throughout, won some fouls and made some decent if unspectacular contributions to the attacking play. In a word he showed maturity beyond his years. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerner's Driver Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 13 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Not slating him. He didn't really do much to write about. I thought he looked comfortable on the ball and had some nice interplay but that moment he just got pushed off the ball and it caught us off balance could have punished us. He shouldn't be starting over Nakamba imo, yet. Give him 10 minutes here and 15 minutes there to start with. Throwing him in against Wolves is the wrong way to go imo Disagree, he proved himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Just now, Lerner's Driver said: Disagree, he proved himself I think if Hourihane put in the same performance you would be slating him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 I thought he did ok, shows a lot of promise and games like this will help him kick on and develop. Did he play better than Connor, hmmm not clear cut. If Barkely returns i presume we will play Nakamba for Luiz as don't think Ramsey should do that role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, villalad21 said: I think if Hourihane put in the same performance you would be slating him. Even if that is true, if you cant see the difference then I don't know what to say. One has peaked at average. ( By top 10 PL aspiring standards ) One is 19 years old starting his first PL game and put in a display similar to what we might have gotten from Connor - a seasoned professional. Don't get me wrong, the majority of us actually like Connor but truth is truth. Edited December 12, 2020 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 minute ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Even if that is true, if you cant see the difference then I don't know what to say. One has peaked at average. ( By top 10 PL aspiring standards ) One is 19 years old starting his first PL game and put in a display similar to what we might have gotten from Connor - a seasoned professional. Don't get me wrong, the majority of us actually like Connor but truth is truth. I think Conor would get stick for a similar performance. I think he would. But it's totally understandable that a youth product is given an easier time by fans. I am all for it. Exciting to follow his development. Hopefully he can make it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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