Vive_La_Villa Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, MaVilla said: maybe, i wouldnt bet on it though, i get the feeling he only extended his contract because he got a run in the team, if he was a bench warmer all season i would literally bet money that he wouldnt extend again. Im guessing, but after that run in the second half of the season, added to his heroics versus WBA, i dont think he wants to be a no 2 I could be wrong. He probably doesn’t want to be a number 2. But I reckon he will back himself to try and challenge the number 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakotaDakota Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Ok so if were talking about steer it goes in the kalinic thread and if were talking about kalinic it goes in the steer thread....... Maybe someone can swap the past 5 pages or so in each thread around or somehow merge the two keepers together. Surely the pair of them combined must make a decent keeper than may even be worth 15 million. FWIW i would rather start Steer than buy Butland too.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 A] It would take £X to purchase Mr Y from Football Utd B] Nobody would ever offer £X to Football Utd to buy Mr Y These two statements are not mutually exclusive. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 7 hours ago, Villan_of_oz said: I am not saying anyone will buy Rashford, what I am saying is that is what he would be worth to Man U if they were to sell. You're not saying anything of substance to argue the point, you're just making snide remarks about me playing too much FIFA (which I don't play). And I’d guess that nor does the person accusing u of playing too much FIFA, because if he did, he’d know that the pricing model in FIFA undervalues everything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 9 hours ago, Villan_of_oz said: I am not saying anyone will buy Rashford, what I am saying is that is what he would be worth to Man U if they were to sell. Exactly. That's how this (and any competitive market) works. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 5, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted June 5, 2019 On 03/06/2019 at 22:21, OxfordVillan said: Was Neil Etheridge a championship keeper the season before last? Yes. He’s had a decent season in a relegated team and now £8m isn’t enough, apparently. What evidence is there to suggest that Steer wouldn’t have an equally decent season? He might. But he hasn't. If he plays for us this season and does well in the Premier League then it's a totally different scenario. He's then proven in the premier league and £8m+ is a reasonable estimate. The fact that we're talking about £8m ish for Neil Etheridge is evidence that people talking about £10-£15m for Steer are being very optimistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 Why we talking about selling Jed Steer in the Kalanic thread? the last 4 pages are utter madness. Steer isnt going anywhere, he just signed a new contract and is our number 1 choice. If we were to buy a new keeper then the other 3 would go before him. He's a top shot stopper. That save against Rodriguez is the best save any Villa keeper has made since probably Bosnich, his distribution is excellent as well. You all need to give your head a wobble. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 5, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted June 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, Junxs said: Why we talking about selling Jed Steer in the Kalanic thread? the last 4 pages are utter madness. Because somebody asked how much we'd get if we sold Steer so it prompted a discussion 5 minutes ago, Junxs said: He's a top shot stopper. That save against Rodriguez is the best save any Villa keeper has made since probably Bosnich, his distribution is excellent as well. Agreed. Although Guzan's vs Blackburn was better. But goalkeeping is about much much more than shot stopping. Every goalkeeper at this level is a good shot stopper. 6 minutes ago, Junxs said: You all need to give your head a wobble. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Junxs said: He's a top shot stopper. That save against Rodriguez is the best save any Villa keeper has made since probably Bosnich, his distribution is excellent as well. I agree he’s a good shot stopper but as has been mentioned previously every keeper should be a good shot stopper. For me his biggest strength is his positioning. I think he reads the game well. Edited June 5, 2019 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I agree he’s a good shot stopper but as has been mentioned previously every keeper should be a good shot stopper. For me his biggest strength is his positioning. I think he reads the game well. There are levels of shot stopping though.. It's like saying every striker should be a good finisher, you expect your striker to finish etc. Some keepers are better at saving than others, positioning yourself for a good save is like a striker getting in a good position to score. You still have to be able to save/score from a good position. Being able to anticipate where the striker is going to put it is another skill, sometimes you can pull off an excellent save by reading the strikers body language and anticipating where they are going to shoot. I've seen too many keepers trying to react after the balls already gone, you see some will dive after the shot gone past them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 So that Kalinic ay.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 40 minutes ago, Junxs said: There are levels of shot stopping though.. It's like saying every striker should be a good finisher, you expect your striker to finish etc. Some keepers are better at saving than others, positioning yourself for a good save is like a striker getting in a good position to score. You still have to be able to save/score from a good position. Being able to anticipate where the striker is going to put it is another skill, sometimes you can pull off an excellent save by reading the strikers body language and anticipating where they are going to shoot. I've seen too many keepers trying to react after the balls already gone, you see some will dive after the shot gone past them. I agree with you mate. But In terms of athletiscm, speed of reaction, strength to parry etc. I don’t think these are Steers strengths and might be why he isn’t as rated as a keeper as he should be. But what he lacks up in those areas he more than makes up with his positioning and anticipation in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slovenian Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 croatian news sites suggest he lost his place in their starting XI, some guy Livaković will start their game vs wales on saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 2 hours ago, slovenian said: croatian news sites suggest he lost his place in their starting XI, some guy Livaković will start their game vs wales on saturday. I didn’t know Jed Steer was Croatian ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Jed Steerovic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 I came here to find out the latest about Kalinic. How silly of me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_avfc Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 23 minutes ago, AJ said: I came here to find out the latest about Kalinic. How silly of me. That was a bit silly. Don't you know that there's a Jed Steer thread on here for that?!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummybloke Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 I can see him wanting a move unless told he is defo number 1 next season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 (edited) What on earth is going on with kalinic? Have we signed him then someone decided he won't cut it? I heard a rumour he was a suso signing and not a Dean Smith signing? No idea though. Sad really if it doesn't work out, not a small amount of money to waste, he's a huge guy also his frame would be ideal for a prem gk, wonder if they think he's not agile enough or something? Edited June 6, 2019 by MaVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 6, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted June 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, MaVilla said: What on earth is going on with kalinic? Have we signed him then someone decided he won't cut it? I heard a rumour he was a suso signing and not a Dean Smith signing? No idea though. Sad really if it doesn't work out, not a small amount of money to waste, he's a huge guy also his frame would be ideal for a prem gk, wonder if they think he's not agile enough or something? We signed him. He got injured. Steer performed well as Number 1. I think that's all there is to it. Smith has shown that he isn't afraid to leave players out if the player with the shirt is performing and hasn't done anything to be dropped. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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