villalad21 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Didn't he concede in average 2 goals per game when he played? Fair enough Hutton and Taylor didn't make it easy for him, but he still looked complete shambles at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Didn't he concede in average 2 goals per game when he played? Fair enough Hutton and Taylor didn't make it easy for him, but he still looked complete shambles at times. Wouldn't read too much into it. Heaton conceded 2 goals every 45 minutes he played for England so far, or 4 in 93 minutes. But yeah Kalinic looked shaky and I don't see him staying here, got that impression straight away after those first few games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Harsh to judge him in the short time and the awful defence, but if I was going to judge him I would say he was nothing short of awful. He may have improved. He will be moved on swiftly, on loan probably, but if we can get a fee, any fee, then great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 I wonder how much we will lose of him ? What was he .. £7million? At best we will get £3million back.. oh well you win some you lose some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killeen30 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 6 hours ago, sne said: Literally no one left from back when we were first linked with him. Must have been magic then mate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMitch Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Why does everyone think he's off this window? To me, the evidence points to Nyland's exit as more realistic than Kalinic's. The club's leadership has said time and time again that they want two people competing for the starting spot in all roles. IMO, Nyland isn't good enough, and Steer needs another season on loan to a Championship club to continue his development. Kalinic & Heaton will be competing for the starting spot every week, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted July 31, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 hour ago, KMitch said: Why does everyone think he's off this window? To me, the evidence points to Nyland's exit as more realistic than Kalinic's. The club's leadership has said time and time again that they want two people competing for the starting spot in all roles. IMO, Nyland isn't good enough, and Steer needs another season on loan to a Championship club to continue his development. Kalinic & Heaton will be competing for the starting spot every week, IMO. Kalinic is an international who clearly hasn't settled and was quickly found out of the manager's favour. As an international he'll want to play, and he'll be an easier sell than Nyland who has just come back from a serious injury and wasn't very good before it, so likely will be happy with being third choice for now. Steer has more than staked his claim for the No.1 so will be going nowhere. Thus Kalinic is the easiest sale. He's clearly not settled, he's going to want to have games so likely will want to go, he's out of favour and he's still got some value and pedigree. He'll go, either for a low fee or on loan. Heaton and Steer will fight for No.1, Nyland will be third choice. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMitch Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Again, I haven't seen anywhere other than rumors on Twitter and Villa Talk that Kalinic hasn't settled. He picked up an injury shortly after his arrival and had to have surgery, which is why he was out of the team this past spring. He's in the fold again and has gotten a lot of preseason minutes ahead of Nyland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 I wouldn’t write him off just yet, according to Wikipedia, he’s only played 7 times for us, we paid £7m for him, he’s an established international goalkeeper. He’s looked good when he’s played in pre season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted August 1, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 1, 2019 Look at the keepers we now have. Heaton has just arrived and will be tussling for no.1. Steer is evidently no.1 as things stand. He was given a chance, and took it, and was a key part of the promotion effort. He been rewarded with a new contract and is evidently in the management's good books. He's not without flaws but he's still fairly inexperienced. He's going to fight with Heaton for no.1, and most likely will be his understudy. Kalinic played 7 times and conceded 12 goals in that time. In his last appearance he was taken off at half time and never returned from the bench for the remainder of the season before his injury. His time out also coincided with us going on our most successful run ever. He didn't play particularly well for us and unfortunately for him his replacement came in and smashed the opportunity. Kalinic is an international and will need to play to maintain his position internationally, and as things stand he's at best second choice, and more likely third given he was out of favour before injury. He does have some value still regardless of his performances here given his age and international status. Nyland isn't very good. He didn't perform well for us and then got a bad injury. There's elements of his game that aren't too bad and he seems reasonably well liked at the club. He doesn't have a great deal of value and given his injury is probably happy as third choice at the moment. So, in that case, Kalinic is the one that makes the most sense to go. He's not in favour, there's 2 keepers ahead of him in the pecking order now, personally he'll want to be playing, he still has value. Nyland would be harder to move on. Kalinic will go, most likely back to the continent on loan or at a slight loss. We'll go into the season with Heaton and Steer as no.1 prospects (it'll be Heaton eventually with Steer in the cups) and Nyland training very hard never too be seen again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 8 hours ago, KMitch said: Again, I haven't seen anywhere other than rumors on Twitter and Villa Talk that Kalinic hasn't settled. He picked up an injury shortly after his arrival and had to have surgery, which is why he was out of the team this past spring. He's in the fold again and has gotten a lot of preseason minutes ahead of Nyland. Where would you expect to see it? It's not as though the club are going to release a statement saying how he's struggled to settle are they?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 13 hours ago, KMitch said: Why does everyone think he's off this window? To me, the evidence points to Nyland's exit as more realistic than Kalinic's. The club's leadership has said time and time again that they want two people competing for the starting spot in all roles. IMO, Nyland isn't good enough, and Steer needs another season on loan to a Championship club to continue his development. Kalinic & Heaton will be competing for the starting spot every week, IMO. He will want to remain No.1 for Croatia more than anything, he won't sitting on our bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 He is currently 3rd choice. As a international that is disastrous. Would be surprised if he didn't move on this window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Will be off very soon I imagine. Not even 1 of the 3 in the warm up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Rumours he's off to Serie A and the blucerchiatos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Sampdoria spent a lot of money on Audero but perhaps they feel he's not quite ready. Doubt they'll offer much money for Kalinic thou. Likely a loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Send him out on loan until January then if he’s done well we can either sell him to the club he’s at or he will have attracted attention elsewhere. There’s always someone desperate in January. Some desperados paid £7m for him last January........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrusr Posted August 27, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 27, 2019 Not even on the bench for Crewe. Certainly will be gone before the of the window IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted August 27, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 27, 2019 He still here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Presume he didn’t leave? This guy must be a real dud or his agent a real dud to not be able to find a new club across Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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