Villan_of_oz Posted June 22, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted June 22, 2021 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: I see other people have been having the same thoughts that I have regarding Dean Smith being an excellent choice to replace Southgate if (when) Southgate gets the sack after the Euros. I think him and Potter would be the obvious good choices for the job. Fortunately for Villa fans, I think the FA are more likely to approach Steve Bruce than Dean Smith. But if I wasn't biased towards wanting him to stay at Villa, I can't help thinking Smith would be my first choice You're right twice. Dean Smith would be perfect AND there is no chance the FA would hire him, in my view. Gareth probably slags DS off all the time, being that he seems to hate everything Villa. Edited June 22, 2021 by Villan_of_oz 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 I think Deano respectfully turns down the England job, saying that he is flattered but has a job to do that he is already committed to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 22, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted June 22, 2021 6 hours ago, Phil Silvers said: I think Deano respectfully turns down the England job, saying that he is flattered but has a job to do that he is already committed to. I'm not so sure. I think it would be a really tough decision for him. I think England is still a huge pull, especially if he thinks he can get the best out of the great squad England have. The fear would be the repercussions after. England managers almost always leave the job with damaged reputations. I don't really know what I would want. I love Smith and want him to stay at Villa, but I also love International tournaments and genuinely believe Smith could do something with the players England have coming through. It would be really exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: I'm not so sure. I think it would be a really tough decision for him. I think England is still a huge pull, especially if he thinks he can get the best out of the great squad England have. The fear would be the repercussions after. England managers almost always leave the job with damaged reputations. I don't really know what I would want. I love Smith and want him to stay at Villa, but I also love International tournaments and genuinely believe Smith could do something with the players England have coming through. It would be really exciting. Catch 22 pal, he has claret and blue blood and on the quiet I bet he is on the job relentlessly. I don't think international management has the draw it used to, it was the pinnacle to be allowed to manage you're country. Its been diluted over time for me. As you say though, the lure of this generation of players and what can be achieved is tantalising and this would be my worry if he was approached. For its Villa above all else but we are in such a good place right now, that we can almost choose who we want as our next manager, not many would turn us down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 22, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted June 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Phil Silvers said: Catch 22 pal, he has claret and blue blood and on the quiet I bet he is on the job relentlessly. I don't think international management has the draw it used to, it was the pinnacle to be allowed to manage you're country. Its been diluted over time for me. As you say though, the lure of this generation of players and what can be achieved is tantalising and this would be my worry if he was approached. For its Villa above all else but we are in such a good place right now, that we can almost choose who we want as our next manager, not many would turn us down. Yeah there's just always the danger that if you get rid of the manager who is building the team it loses all momentum. I'd be very fearful of that. Sorry if this sounds like I'm trying to get rid of Smith. I'm really not. I was just thinking earlier about Southgate getting the sack (which I would like) and I couldn't honestly think of any better English manager to take the job than Dean Smith. I think he'd be excellent. But like we said, the point is probably moot, as i doubt the FA would even consider such an exciting and progressive manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted June 22, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted June 22, 2021 I think the England national job is a miserable little cul-de-sac for management careers. It should only be appealing to those who have grown weary of day to day club football. I don’t see Smith being offered it. I don’t see Smith being interested - certainly not now, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 You only have to look at the decline in the quality of recent appointments as one fails after the other. Turn the clock back and ppl would ridicule you if you said Big Sam and little Gareth would be managing England. Deano would be a definite target for them, very hard worker, very professional and a massive upgrade on the current imbecile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinRichardsonsMoustache Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said: It should only be appealing to those who have grown weary of day to day club football. Or those who are part of the FA's machine. Interesting that the U21s don't have a permanent head coach at the moment who would step into Southgate's shoes: seems like the wheels are falling off the machine. Until now, I thought the FA and the national team was becoming increasingly divorced from the Premier League: making the national team a more stable entity. Southgate is a poor performance away from the house of cards falling down. If he was ten years older, I could see the FA approaching Lampard: fits the bill perfectly: southerner, tidy, apparently plays nice football; knows some of the players; has experience playing for England. Some of the more adventurous among the FA board would want Brendan Rogers, only to see him turn them down. Back OT: Dean isn't the right profile for the FA and the lack of day to day connection with the players would kill him. Edited June 22, 2021 by KevinRichardsonsMoustache OT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 I'd be gutted if he left but couldn't blame him if he wanted to try to get the best out of this England squad in a world cup. At least if he took the England job we wouldn't have to hear about him cleaning the seats in the Holte End every sodding game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 I don't think a good manager already in job would take the England Post these days Its too much of a poisoned chalice. I think only the out of work club managers would take it these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 minute ago, MaVilla said: I don't think a good manager already in job would take the England Post these days Its too much of a poisoned chalice. I think only the out of work club managers would take it these days. You don't become a premier League football manager without the confidence, if not arrogance, to believe you can succeed in that type of job, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Smith has one of the most exciting briefs in English football at present - restoring his boyhood club to former glories - with a patient, cash rich board, and a hugely promising young team. He'd be mad to leave - even for England. I think that opportunity could be there for him in the future if he wants it, but let's see how the next few years go. I think they are going to be a lot of fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 26 minutes ago, Davkaus said: You don't become a premier League football manager without the confidence, if not arrogance, to believe you can succeed in that type of job, imo. maybe not, but have any of the England managers from the last 20 odd years actually left a club to join the setup? (as in resigned their post to take over England) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, MaVilla said: maybe not, but have any of the England managers from the last 20 odd years actually left a club to join the setup? (as in resigned their post to take over England) We prised Hodgson away from Smethwick. Quite the coup. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Condimentalist said: Smith has one of the most exciting briefs in English football at present - restoring his boyhood club to former glories - with a patient, cash rich board, and a hugely promising young team. He'd be mad to leave - even for England. I think that opportunity could be there for him in the future if he wants it, but let's see how the next few years go. I think they are going to be a lot of fun. Its like an FM save challenge. Even the way he took over in the Championship with no centre backs. Edited June 22, 2021 by GENTLEMAN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 If Smith were offered it I think he'd turn them down. I know if I was in that position - managing the club I support, good young team that's on the up, ambitious owners etc, I'd always be left wondering what might've happened had I stayed instead of taking the England job. As others have said, England is a bit of a graveyard for managers. Also, does it even fit Smith's strengths? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denaldinho Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 I would not be surprised if Harry Rednapp took the job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 6 hours ago, MaVilla said: maybe not, but have any of the England managers from the last 20 odd years actually left a club to join the setup? (as in resigned their post to take over England) Sven came from winning Serie A to England Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewieGriffin Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 20 minutes ago, Zatman said: Sven came from winning Serie A to England McClaren as well - left Boro for England Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 Pre-season starts a week tomorrow, lets hope he gets his wish and we're able to bring in a set-piece specialist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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