Keyblade Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 We have completely surpassed established PL teams like Palace, Newcastle, Southampton and Brighton in just our first 2 seasons back. I didn't think we'd be able to compete with them for a good few years even, let alone be clear of them within 2. It's remarkable the progress we've made under Smith and NSWE, it can't be understated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Fair play hes done well. the club has made good progress. Onwards and upwards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) Bravo Dean for changing the dynamics against Spurs, sure we still have a way to go with our possession stats, which will help us even more with our defensive qualities and offensive qualities....but the teams pressing show, was a mighty change from the second half at Palace. I would still like to see us bring in at least one player is who has a natural instinct for pressing, to add additional help to the likes of McGinn, who on this form, is a natural too. I also think playing Hause, was instrumental in Mings having such a fine game....I thought you showed nous in your tactical approach, in this game. Ps I thought Dean come out fighting in that post match interview, compared with the Palace jobbie......More of this Dean. Edited May 20, 2021 by TRO 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 We've got seventeen more points than last season, seventeen points is the total amount of points we finished with the season we went down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 14 minutes ago, TRO said: Bravo Dean for changing the dynamics against Spurs, sure we still have a way to go with our possession stats, which will help us even more with our defensive qualities and offensive qualities....but the teams pressing show, was a mighty change from the second half at Palace. I would still like to see us bring in at least one player is who has a natural instinct for pressing, to add additional help to the likes of McGinn, who on this form, is a natural too. I also think playing Hause, was instrumental in Mings having such a fine game....I thought you showed nous in your tactical approach, in this game. Ps I thought Dean come out fighting in that post match interview, compared with the Palace jobbie......More of this Dean. Monsieur Sanson will be a big player for us next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, useless said: We've got seventeen more points than last season, seventeen points is the total amount of points we finished with the season we went down. That bit is undoubtedly impressive, no arguing with that.... we finished one place above my prediction, so no complaints on the final placing from me. Ollie, Emi and Matt have been instrumental in that....shows how 3 prudent signings have helped make such a difference.....I hope we pursue quality after June 9th and continue with that level of player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: Monsieur Sanson will be a big player for us next season. I hope so, certainly haven't forgotten or written him off.....it seems like Dean will have options next term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 32 minutes ago, Keyblade said: We have completely surpassed established PL teams like Palace, Newcastle, Southampton and Brighton in just our first 2 seasons back. I didn't think we'd be able to compete with them for a good few years even, let alone be clear of them within 2. It's remarkable the progress we've made under Smith and NSWE, it can't be understated. Newcastle were only up a year longer than us. That being said, yes he’s done great and here’s to continued improvement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: Newcastle were only up a year longer than us. That being said, yes he’s done great and here’s to continued improvement 2 years with Rafa before we came up. We'll be a lot stronger financially with our 2 years under our belt than Barnsley or Swansea if they were to come up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MentalM Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: Newcastle were only up a year longer than us. Think Brighton as well, they got promoted same season did they not? Grealish goal denied Brighton the title in last match when we were down to 10 men Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) Newcastle and Brighton were promoted in the 2016/17 season which was our first season in the championship after relegation, we then spent a futher two seasons in the championship, the 2017/18 and 2018/19 seasons. Or in other words both Brighton and Newcastle had two seasons in the premier league before we were promoted. Edited May 20, 2021 by useless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted May 20, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted May 20, 2021 Amazing how chilled out/uneventful this thread is after a win. The Palace result provoked over 20 pages of debate/discussion before the end of Sunday, less than half a day. About 24 hours after the Spurs game - there’s been an additional 6 or so pages. I’ve commented on this before. It’s not unique to VT, or Villa, or even football as a whole I suspect. Victory isn’t as interesting a topic as defeat is, it would seem. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mark Albrighton Posted May 20, 2021 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted May 20, 2021 Anyway, just had a look at past point totals. Since John Gregory left and prior to this season, Villa have managed to exceed 50 points in the top flight on 4 separate occasions. That’s 4 times in 16 premier league seasons. Now it’s 5 in 17 seasons. To give some comparative examples, Houllier managed 48 points (9th). O’Neil managed 50 in his first season (11th) and O’Leary’s highest total was 56 (6th). The points total this season could have been higher, perhaps even should have been higher. But context is in order. The trajectory is still positive. Additional - Villa have won 15 matches this season (still Chelsea to play). The most matches Villa have ever won in a single premier league season (with 20 clubs) is 18 in 1995/96 when we finished 4th. Now, if you’d have asked me in August would I have taken a season in which Villa recorded just 3 fewer victories than Brian Little’s best season...I may just have been tempted. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said: Amazing how chilled out/uneventful this thread is after a win. The Palace result provoked over 20 pages of debate/discussion before the end of Sunday, less than half a day. About 24 hours after the Spurs game - there’s been an additional 6 or so pages. I’ve commented on this before. It’s not unique to VT, or Villa, or even football as a whole I suspect. Victory isn’t as interesting a topic as defeat is, it would seem. I guess there is only so many accolades that can be said in victory by posters to be fair, whereas defeat draws up more debate and provides more opinions and creates more pages. The posters that have quashed any previous criticism of the coach are not out in defence as much either due to everyone being united in the same happy camp, which is how it should be in my opinion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Tomaszk said: Monsieur Sanson will be a big player for us next season. I’ve heard you say this a few times now. I’m going to hold you to this, you know that right?! Edited May 20, 2021 by Delphinho123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted May 20, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted May 20, 2021 1 minute ago, AvfcRigo82 said: I guess there is only so many accolades that can be said in victory by posters to be fair, whereas defeat draws up more debate and provides more opinions and creates more pages. The posters that have quashed any previous criticism of the coach are not out in defence as much either due to everyone being united in the same happy camp, which is how it should be in my opinion. Yeah I know, people who will want to voice criticism will mean those who want to defend him will be vocal as well. I do think there is something inherent in people being quicker to critique than praise. It acts as a release. Again, not a uniquely VT thing, or an Aston Villa thing in general. Much wider than that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 2 hours ago, TRO said: I hope so, certainly haven't forgotten or written him off.....it seems like Dean will have options next term. Re: your point about pressuring etc, Sanson is actually in the top 1% in Europe's top 5 leagues for pressures per 90 amongst midfielders. His defensive numbers are generally excellent from his time in France so I wouldn't be surprised if that was exactly why he was brought in. Fingers crossed he'll be the better for his chance to settle in early and will hit the ground running next season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denaldinho Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 We made progress this season - If he does worse after a few good signing then sack him. Nothing complicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 9 hours ago, Jas10 said: That claret jumper It is lovely. I want to know where it's from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 20, 2021 Author Share Posted May 20, 2021 36 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said: Amazing how chilled out/uneventful this thread is after a win. The Palace result provoked over 20 pages of debate/discussion before the end of Sunday, less than half a day. About 24 hours after the Spurs game - there’s been an additional 6 or so pages. I’ve commented on this before. It’s not unique to VT, or Villa, or even football as a whole I suspect. Victory isn’t as interesting a topic as defeat is, it would seem. Well there will be less as there will be less of a debate. I think we are all in agreement that smith deserves massive credit for that win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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