PieFacE Posted June 28, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted June 28, 2019 Just now, MaVilla said: Is anybody else a little concerned that the club no longer owns the stadium? I know it could be fine, but it could also be a Coventry in worst case scenario.... Not concerned in the slightest. There's absolutely no logical reason why it would ever become a scneario like Coventry. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberman Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Shrewd move financially it seems. Hopefully includes buyback clauses when/if they move on though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, MaVilla said: Is anybody else a little concerned that the club no longer owns the stadium? I know it could be fine, but it could also be a Coventry in worst case scenario.... In essence they have now purchased villa park twice .... it was inevitable and the 3 have of them have my upmost trust earned by their actions to date. The rent will no doubt be peppercorn and we've plugged a £56 million hole in our finances . It’s just paper money shuffling exercise. Edited June 28, 2019 by thabucks 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 I agree with most here - the time to worry is when VP is separated from the owners. They had the power to flog it to a third party before this, they have that power now - absolutely no difference except a tonne of cash pumped in - and that's not being nonchalant. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Whilst not fully understanding Coventrys plight or history they're a desperately unprofitable club with after their slide to obscurity 1 and only 1 asset, the stadium, it's worth more than their club If the figures are true then VP is worth slightly less than jack grealish While we are the PL the stadium is worth less than a quarter of the value of the club Its not the most important asset the owners have, the club makes more money than the stadium does, Coventry didn't If they sold us in the future then at a guess the new owner would have to buy the club and the stadium, I don't see anything to worry about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 And I'm not sure what stadium costs come under FFP, I thought ground improvements was exempt But you could create a scenario where our running costs are £0, everything is provided by the stadium owner, we just then pay them a token rent figure, could make the club look more profitable if they did it right 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Yeah I kinda knew this was happening. It makes all the sense in the world. Its still owned by our owners so who cares? Cssh injection by ppl who can via loophole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Vive_La_Villa Posted June 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 28, 2019 The bulls**t FFP rules leave owners no choice but to make these kind of moves. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Just now, Mazrim said: Yeah I kinda knew this was happening. It makes all the sense in the world. Its still owned by our owners so who cares? Cssh injection by ppl who can via loophole. surprised they didnt buy the stadium for more if it was a cash injection? unless thats all the stadium was valued at.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted June 28, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted June 28, 2019 A giggling Nassef and Wes outside Steve Gibsons house chucking folded up fivers at his bedroom window, is how id like tonight to end! 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, MaVilla said: surprised they didnt buy the stadium for more if it was a cash injection? unless thats all the stadium was valued at.... Doubt buying it for 350 mill would raise any suspicions hey? Don't think we could just value at anything we feel like. Edited June 28, 2019 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Just now, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Doubt buying it for 350 mill would raise any suspicions hey? Don't think we could just value at anything we feel like. ye dont mean that, but didnt Derby sell their stadium to their owner for 60m?, if thats the case surprised villa park is worth less than derby's stadium? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Coventrys problem was a club who barely got 20-25k crowds thought they could fill an all purpose 30-35k stadium in a part of Coventry with shit public transport connections whilst gambling it all on staying in the premier league. Once they got relegated any money trickling down had to go to paying the ground off rather than stabilise the club/team to regroup and get up. They put all their eggs in one basket and it blew up in their faces massively. Mind employing Gordon Strachan as manager as well didn't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 5 hours ago, MaVilla said: ye dont mean that, but didnt Derby sell their stadium to their owner for 60m?, if thats the case surprised villa park is worth less than derby's stadium? Good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 1 minute ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Good point. infact i just read it was 80m....not 60. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted June 29, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted June 29, 2019 They probably just paid the sum which was needed to cover off FFP. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 Knowing our previous financial luck they'll probably find oil/gold mine under VP now and it's worth 55 trillion 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 18 hours ago, stewiek2 said: Coventrys problem was a club who barely got 9-10k crowds thought they could fill an all purpose 30-35k stadium in a part of Coventry with shit public transport connections whilst gambling it all on staying in the premier league. Once they got relegated any money trickling down had to go to paying the ground off rather than stabilise the club/team to regroup and get up. They put all their eggs in one basket and it blew up in their faces massively. Mind employing Gordon Strachan as manager as well didn't help. And they're felchers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillz Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 Whilst i know i shouldn't look back hypothetically, but could you imagine if these guys had come in when Doug first sold us to Lerner. When the Top 4 weren't as unassailable as they are now and 10m got you a good quality player. Just imagine if our first push and investment had been overseen by people as capable as NSWE rather than Randy and MON 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted June 29, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted June 29, 2019 12 minutes ago, Gillz said: Whilst i know i shouldn't look back hypothetically, but could you imagine if these guys had come in when Doug first sold us to Lerner. When the Top 4 weren't as unassailable as they are now and 10m got you a good quality player. Just imagine if our first push and investment had been overseen by people as capable as NSWE rather than Randy and MON We'd have been watching Villa against Bayern, Barca, Real, Juve, Roma, Milan, Ajax.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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